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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    If you dont accept it as a rationalization, then realize you are blind to the world as you dont believe what you see. Still an internal struggle as your refusing to accept what your eyes pull in and how can you be a perceptive type if you are blind to the world.
    How do I truly perceive if I accept everything I see without question? How did the nearsighted and farsighted know what the world actually looked like before the invention of eyeglasses? How do you know that the "corrected" world is its actual manifestation?

    There are brain disorders that profoundly impact a person's interpretation of sensory data. Why are we correct and theirs is the disorder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    How do I truly perceive if I accept everything I see without question? How did the nearsighted and farsighted know what the world actually looked like before the invention of eyeglasses? How do you know that the "corrected" world is its actual manifestation?

    There are brain disorders that profoundly impact a person's interpretation of sensory data. Why are we correct and theirs is the disorder?
    What are you questioning if you dont accept it? You already said you dont think it exists.

    In regards to the glasses, what was near or far is not really different then someone who is "middle" sighted. Thy learn to work with what was given to them. I learned to recognize blobs at a distance before I got glasses. You learn how to work with what you have instead of using it as an excuse. I still dont wear glasses much as I know how to function without them easily.

    Edit: Why are we arguing who is correct? Thats not part of accepting nor understanding
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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    What are you questioning if you dont accept it? You already said you dont think it exists.

    In regards to the glasses, what was near or far is not really different then someone who is "middle" sighted. Thy learn to work with what was given to them. I learned to recognize blobs at a distance before I got glasses. You learn how to work with what you have instead of using it as an excuse. I still dont wear glasses much as I know how to function without them easily.

    Edit: Why are we arguing who is correct? Thats not part of accepting nor understanding
    Who says I accept or don't accept anything? I'm just probing the implications behind all of these statements - it's what we like to do.

    So who decided what was myopia, what was hyperopia, and what was standard vision?

    We argue because when we argue, we break apart each other's conceptualization of the world, and begin to find the bits and pieces of actual truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Who says I accept or don't accept anything? I'm just probing the implications behind all of these statements - it's what we like to do.

    So who decided what was myopia, what was hyperopia, and what was standard vision?

    We argue because when we argue, we break apart each other's conceptualization of the world, and begin to find the bits and pieces of actual truth.
    You havnt fought anything yet within this discussion.

    It doesnt really matter who decided it, its based off of functional use. This is that whole leverage thing that I have no desire to dig into further, its not practically important. This is the detail that makes no difference to me and is to low level.

    So what actual truth was found here?

    Edit: I have spoken what I believe I have found no additional truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    You havnt fought anything yet within this discussion.

    It doesnt really matter who decided it, its based off of functional use. This is that whole leverage thing that I have no desire to dig into further, its not practically important. This is the detail that makes no difference to me and is to low level.

    So what actual truth was found here?

    Edit: I have spoken what I believe I have found no additional truth.
    Nothing, it's good exercise for the brain, that's all. Keeps it sharp and fresh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Because you touch yourself at night thinking about ENFPs
    Isn't that also why the dinosaurs died out?
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    I don't know. Wasn't born yet. If so, that's a hell of a long time to be pining after ENFPs.

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    I prefer ETPs anyway.
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    I prefer NTJs and SFPs.

    Isn't this fun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    I prefer NTJs and SFPs.

    Isn't this fun?
    Are we talking who we prefer when touch ourselves?
    Im out, its been fun

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