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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    But what's to say you truly see that picture without seeing its elements?

    The combinations, my dear. The reactions you create with the techniques you throw together. The knowledge that the person on the receiving end is engulfed in waves of pleasure. The satisfaction that you can give someone that sort of pleasure. The secret part of her body that no one but you knows will drive her wild.
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    You've heard of the concept of mathematical beauty, right? Such a thing may seem counterintuitive, but then again, what is music at its essence but a series of mathematical relationships, anyway? "Truth is beauty, beauty truth"; and then you have something like this:



    Seems like a bunch of letters on a page, right? However, the beauty of it comes from its simplicity, and the implications. What are they?

    They couldn't be more profound. Simply put, if there is a god, when he said "let there be light", that's exactly how he said it.

    There is unfathomable beauty in analysis.
    That's some Ti going on there. Beautiful to observe how Ti applies itself to the physicalities of love. Very insightful. (with a touch o' sweet Fe might I add-I like how you called her "my dear", hehehe, that's kinda cute. I am getting some mace for SS now.)

    However SS is speaking words of truth wrt to love and they way we seem to understand it. Fi sort of does what you describe above with Ti, but in a very weird connective fashion. We end up becoming part of that person, beautifully entwined with, them, between them, amongst them. Like we become a piece of a complex mathmatical puzzle, but one far too complicated to resolve into a separate, singular entity but instead defined by continuity. Fi doesnt really have physical bounds. (WTF????)

    OMT, I'd have to spend some time really thinking on this, as I dont know how to enunciate it or compare it. Good thoughts though...

    Sorry if I offended you SS, as your valentines day thoughts were very sweet. You make us smile and feel Fi happy thoughts.

    As for Edgar? He just fronts with Te. I, with my overused Te, find it utterly fucking hysterical, if profoundly crude. Edgar makes me laugh my ass off. I think I saw that quote right after I joined and and had picked my user name. Ah, the irony. Vulgarity or not, though I think he is spot on to a certain extent.

    Everything I do involves play, either bountifully silly or rough and robust, but play it ends up being in the end.

    (Shhh, the INTJs are starting to blush.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    How can you objectify Love?
    brains start to make connections that gives message to part of brain that releases chemicals that cause euphoria
    "Where wisdom reigns, there is no conflict between thinking and feeling."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Puppy View Post
    That's some Ti going on there. Beautiful to observe how Ti applies itself to the physicalities of love. Very insightful. (with a touch o' sweet Fe might I add-I like how you called her "my dear", hehehe, that's kinda cute. I am getting some mace for SS now.)

    However SS is speaking words of truth wrt to love and they way we seem to understand it. Fi sort of does what you describe above with Ti, but in a very weird connective fashion. We end up becoming part of that person, beautifully entwined with, them, between them, amongst them. Like we become a piece of a complex mathmatical puzzle, but one far too complicated to resolve into a separate, singular entity but instead defined by continuity. Fi doesnt really have physical bounds. (WTF????)

    OMT, I'd have to spend some time really thinking on this, as I dont know how to enunciate it or compare it. Good thoughts though...

    Sorry if I offended you SS, as your valentines day thoughts were very sweet. You make us smile and feel Fi happy thoughts.

    As for Edgar? He just fronts with Te. I, with my overused Te, find it utterly fucking hysterical, if profoundly crude. Edgar makes me laugh my ass off. I think I saw that quote right after I joined and and had picked my user name. Ah, the irony. Vulgarity or not, though I think he is spot on to a certain extent.

    Everything I do involves play, either bountifully silly or rough and robust, but play it ends up being in the end.

    (Shhh, the INTJs are starting to blush.)
    ISTP Ti is more along the lines of how do I blend these formulas together in a subjective manner. How do I move from one to the other.

    Sitting in a meeting while an ENTP went over our current design patterns and a new and improved design pattern my mind raced with how to smoothly transition from one to the other giving feedback on both the old and new, the plusses and minuses and how the 2 intertwined. I know what you mean, but from a Ti perspective.
    Im out, its been fun

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    Onemoretime, I'm at work, hungover, and I barely skimmed your post because I'm on my blackberry and it's a pain in the ass to read the small print,

    Is each infinitely small piece of the universe an infinite microcosm itself?



    I don't know.

    There's matter and energy.

    The universe a massive collection of stuff doing stuff.

    Systems of stuff.

    Order, chaos

    Emergence, entropy

    But why do things sythesize into beautiful harmonious systems?

    There's so much stuff we do not know, cannot comprehend, though try as we might to understand the whats and the why's behind and in between it all.

    I am currently eating a turkey pastrami sandwich.

    I could analyze, ad infinitum about this "simple" sandwich, but, alas, I'm tired.

    And, at least for now, why can't I just accept the fact that it tastes damn good!

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    'Cause you can't handle me...

    "A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it." - David Stevens

    "That that is, is. That that is not, is not. Is that it? It is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    Onemoretime, I'm at work, hungover, and I barely skimmed your post because I'm on my blackberry and it's a pain in the ass to read the small print,

    Is each infinitely small piece of the universe an infinite micrcosm itself?



    I don't know.
    We don't know.

    That's the exciting part. The even more exciting part is that we understand that we do not know. As part of the universe, we engage in understanding the universe. When engaging in Ti and creating logical patterns, we are acting as the universe's Fi, so to speak: we're creating an understanding of the truths of the system within the system, much as Fi creates an understanding of the truths of oneself.

    There's matter and energy.

    The universe a massive collection of stuff doing stuff.

    Systems of stuff.

    Order, chaos

    Emergence, entropy

    But why do things sythesize into beautiful harmonious systems?
    It does it because it can. e^i(pi) + 1 = 0. The fundamental aspects of the universe relate to each other in a transcendently harmonious way. Possible outcome plus time equals inevitability as time approaches infinity. Entropy is nothing but a form of harmony, isn't it?

    There's so much stuff we do not know, cannot comprehend, though try as we might to understand the whats and the why's behind and in between it all.
    Do you resign yourself to this, or do you find this exciting? Do you worry about the sea monsters, or do you discover a new world?

    I am currently eating a turkey pastrami sandwich.

    I could analyze, ad infinitum about this "simple" sandwhich, but, alas, I'm tired.

    And, at least for now, why can't I just accept the fact that it tastes damn good!

    No one said you can't

    No one said you shouldn't

    That being said

    If you understand what makes that turkey pastrami sandwich taste so good

    You now have the road map to make the sandwich taste even better

    You learn how to add a little bit of yourself to the next sandwich

    And the next time someone enjoys your new sandwich

    You know they're enjoying a little bit of yourself

    Sorta like a burrito, right?

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    Where did the turkey come from, how long ago was it slaughtered?

    Did I eat parts from one turkey breast, or a few?

    Do I feel comfortable eating turkey because it is a bird, and not a mammal?

    Why did I order it on wheat bread, instead of rye, probably because I wanted some fiber with my meal.

    What has more fiber in it, rye bread or wheat?

    Mustard, I love mustard, I prefer the mustard with the seeds in it, not the highlighter yellow stuff, though I eat the highlighter yellow stuff when there is no other mustard option.

    There are a lot of mustard plants growing in Los Angeles.

    The flowers are yellow.

    I do not know how mustard is made.

    How many farms, fowl, factories, and people did it take for me to enjoy such a lovely sandwich.

    Did I really enjoy the sandwich?

    I'm not sure, I was preoccupied with thoughts and feelings.

    You think you eat just the turkey, just the wheat bread, just the mustard, but what about all the micro organisms you ingest that you cannot see.

    Do I want to know?

    Or is ignorance bliss.

    And these questions barely touch upon the surface of the sandwich.

    Social insects are fascinating, just a thought.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymenoptera

    Termites, too.

    Mathematics is mathemagical, I know this.

    Blah, blah, blah.

    I like that (some) mathematicians study musical theory.

    The End...

    Or the Beginning.
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    ^^^Good example of Ne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Puppy View Post
    However SS is speaking words of truth wrt to love and they way we seem to understand it. Fi sort of does what you describe above with Ti, but in a very weird connective fashion. We end up becoming part of that person, beautifully entwined with, them, between them, amongst them. Like we become a piece of a complex mathmatical puzzle, but one far too complicated to resolve into a separate, singular entity but instead defined by continuity. Fi doesnt really have physical bounds. (WTF????)
    True, very true.

    As for Edgar? He just fronts with Te. I, with my overused Te, find it utterly fucking hysterical, if profoundly crude. Edgar makes me laugh my ass off. I think I saw that quote right after I joined and and had picked my user name. Ah, the irony. Vulgarity or not, though I think he is spot on to a certain extent.

    Everything I do involves play, either bountifully silly or rough and robust, but play it ends up being in the end.

    (Shhh, the INTJs are starting to blush.)
    fwiw, I fuckin' love, Edgar, too.

    His posts make me laugh more than any other poster's on this forum.



    I do think he's a closet perv, tho.

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    Veritatem dies aperit

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    That's the exciting part. The even more exciting part is that we understand that we do not know. As part of the universe, we engage in understanding the universe. When engaging in Ti and creating logical patterns, we are acting as the universe's Fi, so to speak: we're creating an understanding of the truths of the system within the system, much as Fi creates an understanding of the truths of oneself.
    I like this explanation but also find it kind of, hmmm, cocky and presumptuous?!?

    Is there a ubiquitous Truth which transcends and is reflected in all elements of and within the universe?

    Is the universe holographic?

    Holistic?

    My Fi-meter says so.

    I have no proof, just an inkling of intuition, and a tugging feeling.

    My head's about to explode, hahahaha, I haven't thought about this shit for a while.

    But when I get this overwhelming feeling, I just sit back and breathe, let it all sink in, and think of the marvelous and deeply profound word, no, concept, that being...

    Simplexity!



    Sorta like a burrito, right?
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    "A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it." - David Stevens

    "That that is, is. That that is not, is not. Is that it? It is."

    Veritatem dies aperit

    Ride si sapis

    Intelligentle sparkles

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    No one said you can't

    No one said you shouldn't

    That being said

    If you understand what makes that turkey pastrami sandwich taste so good

    You now have the road map to make the sandwich taste even better

    You learn how to add a little bit of yourself to the next sandwich

    And the next time someone enjoys your new sandwich

    You know they're enjoying a little bit of yourself

    Sorta like a burrito, right?
    But you cant turn the sandwich in on itself like that. Knowing what is good about the sandwich only allows you to understand the sandwich, where harmony comes in is when you can merge 2 sandwiches together in perfect harmony taking the best of both worlds and applying them. The single universal truth is not the new sandwich, but the concept of understanding for then you can merge that sandwich with anything you want and it will contain a portion of yourself. Its the concept of making a song yours even though you use the exact same lyrics. You understand the song, you can then relate it in different ways depending on how you feel at the moment. You can slow it down, speed it up, remix it, etc.
    Im out, its been fun

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