So I wanted to backtrack and hit a couple of interesting points. Note this is Ne in action. Ne endlessly scans the conversation amassing data almost subconsciously. It sort of knaws at the information, establishes infant connections, then wants to go back to certain points. Thus our conversations employ “loop backs” into previous points of this convo. Even worse, two Ne users will be looping into previous conversations. To an ESTJ, this looks like we are both insane.
Understand 98% of the below appears to be subconscious to an ENFP. But working backwards using NeTe starting points the below may be good guesses to explain the Jungian mechanics behind our actions but lots of room for discussions.
When I mentioned organizational triads like ENTP-ENFP-ISTJ, U brought up a very valid point concerning data. N=what? This is a good place to talk about how FiTeSi might be working in ENFPs. I have a people library in my brain. N=anyone I have ever met.
NeFi feeds me a flow of data about people which I then store as FiSi representations. Everyday I see the person, I take an “update” for lack of a better word. I seem to be able to build them in layers-both in quality of the representation of the person and as a way to monitor their behavior over time.
Often I don’t make eye contact but instead watch the person through brief glances, then I seem to cross check them against the internal FiSi representation for congruity. Are they the same as yesterday? Do they seem different from the default representation? This is indicative of “change” of some sort.
This is why ENFPs torture ENTPs. “You seem unhappy. Are you feeling okay? Are you sure because you seem stressed? Really, I don’t think you are being honest, because you seem out of sorts?” The ENFP is observing ENTPs under stress-who become decidedly “tweaky” and differs from the stored internal “normal” representation. I have never committed the above sins of digging as I don’t want to be emo dug myself. When my ENTPs get tweaky, I just give them some space. I’d bet another Fe user would understand intuitively that the ENTP needs that space.
Based on ENXP symmetry it wouldn’t surprise me if ENTPs do something similar with storing of ideas or logical systems and then cross checking???? Total guess though.
What do these cross representations mean for an ENFP?
We can quick type pretty easily. Using FiTeSi I can observe and categorize individuals. Then using NeFiTe I can prepare “templates” for what a normal ISTJ might look like. Then when I meet new people, I cross check against that template and previous ISTJs I have known. I have used MBTI letters for about five years, but only in the last year have I known about the Jungian functions.
As I learn more, quick typing becomes even easier. For instance, IXTJs can be hard to tell apart. I have two who seem very “N” at times. Once I understood the importance of Se to an INTJ, I scanned all of the INTJs I know-both IRL, and in my mental library, historically identified how the Se shows up in their behavior. It’s obvious and it is also obvious that my two unknowns are both ISTJs tapping into Ne.
The mental representations also mean I will pick up on trending of your behavior over time and be very sensitive to purturbations, but not notice your new hair color or that my sweater is on inside out.
To take this to a higher level, I see these same patterns across systems of people. Once I see a particular group of people interact a certain way, I then use structure the pattern using Te, then collect more observational data to see if it fits the model I built. If not the model is wrong and gets changed. However this was very hard to do with just MBTI letters-the Jungian functions supply the mechanical components.
I am very confident in the ENTP-ENFP-ISTJ triad as I have about fifteen ENTPs, three ENFPs, and about 40 ISTJs. You see the same pattern repeat and the ENFPs do the same exact thing-which can be explained via Jungian functions and the Ti/Fe to Te/Fi interface and how it relates to trust.
The ENTP-ISFJ-ENTP triad ? N=1, thus I can build a model and cross check against other Fe observations, but I need to see this repeated many times before being confident.