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    Is optimism foolish? I think I found one who said so. It was quite discouraging.
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    Optimism isn't foolish. Being blind to or ignoring possible consequences is.

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    There's a difference between optimism and hope.

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    Knowingly clinging to false hope is foolish, however, I believe being an optimist often leads to more positive outcomes, it inspires more courageous acts and others appreciate you more. It even feels better for yourself to anticipate your feelings on positive rather than negative outcomes.

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    hope not...a philosophy test told me i was an optimist

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    optimism is not foolish, but i'm pessimistic by nature

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    Optimism connotes a bit of hysteria to me, so I'd rather say confidence. It's good to be confident about the outcome, whether it's "good" or "bad." I put those words in quotes because they really only mean whether something has gone the way I thought it should have -- but in the end, sometimes I see that they went the way it was best, whether I saw that at the time or not. With this point of view, you win even if you fail. I'm not sure that's the same as optimism, but it works for me, since something in me turns stone deaf when I hear "everything's going to be fine." There have been many times when everything was not fine at all -- but I got through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonade View Post
    Optimism isn't foolish. Being blind to or ignoring possible consequences is.
    Agreed.

    I think a lot of it boils down to choice, to be honest. Choosing whether to view life more optimistically, and focus your efforts/thoughts/energies more on the positives, or choosing to view life more negatively or cynically, focusing your thoughts moreso on the negatives.

    I'm aware of the negatives, and don't think I am blind to them, but after spending many years being more pessimistic, I decided it wasn't worth it and I started to choose to pay more attention to the positives, and tried to bring about a more overall positive outlook on life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    I think a lot of it boils down to choice, to be honest. Choosing whether to view life more optimistically, and focus your efforts/thoughts/energies more on the positives, or choosing to view life more negatively or cynically, focusing your thoughts moreso on the negatives.
    I agree. I see optimism as a positive force that will help you progress with things and negativity / cynicism that drags you down and holds you back. It's good to be aware of both but, ultimately, it's still up to you which way you will turn and which way will bring you more satisfaction with yourself, others and life in general.

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    I too, am a more positive, but not naive INFJ. Like the others have said, I try to think about all of the aspects of a situation that I can think of. I try to see the good and bad. I also make an effort to focus on the positive, because I think every little bit helps.
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