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    Habitual Fi LineStepper JocktheMotie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPER View Post
    Kind of like how Si-doms come across as naggy, boring, and redundant to Ne-doms ?
    Precisely



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    You were doing good there Jock, don't screw it up. I love Ti.
    Love is the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    how is it more genuine to help other people so that you would get good feeling from it?
    Hey, at least they're honest about it.

    Well, I think you're not quite at the same level as the OP. Cuz the OP's saying that the type ENFJ acts "fake." However, an ENFJ being "genuine" would be being true to what an ENFJ is. Hence in order to be "genuine," an ENFJ should be expected to act "fake."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Precisely
    heh, so imagine what ESFJs come across as to us...

    Fe + Si trying to impress Ne + Ti......


    it's a common eye rolling experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgman View Post
    Well, I think you're not quite at the same level as the OP. Cuz the OP's saying that the type ENFJ acts "fake." However, an ENFJ being "genuine" would be being true to what an ENFJ is. Hence in order to be "genuine," an ENFJ should be expected to act "fake."
    Lol...

    Well here's a typical scenario for you.

    Some person ISFP BF and I both know gets into some stupid things.

    BF's response: "That person is such a dumb #$%@, what an idiot to do that! *laugh at their drama*"
    Then he moves on and effectively ignores them.

    My response: "Poor person. They're having all these insecurity issues, etc. Just happen to run into the wrong things at the wrong time which have caused them to get into this mess. I really wish there was something I could do to help their underlying psychological problem, so everything can be better again for them."
    So I try to be a good friend, even better than I was before.



    Neither way is right or wrong. While being caring might be good and all, it can easily go too far too. So this isn't something I intentionally think to go "manipulate/fake care" people, this is my response on a natural subconscious level. Obviously I've learned too that helping people isn't always the best thing.
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    To push beyond their natural abilities and create a reality from their dreams.

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    ENFJs are very Oprah-ish.

    HI HOW ARE YOU!? LONG TIME NO SEE, YOU LOOK REALLY GOOD, I LOOOVE WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH YOUR HAIR! OH THAT'S JUST A WIG YOU'RE WEARING BECAUSE YOU HAVE CANCER? THAT'S TERRIBLE! TALK TO MY PRODUCER MAYBE HE CAN BOOK YOU FOR MY SHOW, THE AUDIENCE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT THAT. ANYWAYS I'M OFF TO MY BILLION DOLLAR RESORT IN HAWAII, TOODLES!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPER View Post
    Kind of like how Si-doms come across as naggy, boring, and redundant to Ne-doms ?
    Now where did that crazy idea came from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozz View Post
    Now where did that crazy idea came from?
    Probably off the back of a truck. I hear opinions are cheaper these days when the store has wheels. I jest. I kid.

    *helps a little old lady across the street before whipping hostages in the dungeon*
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    Quote Originally Posted by fill View Post
    I know ENFJs have a want to please people, which in turn rewards them with appreciation, but is this a genuine system? I ask this because I think the other side involves plans or goals. With this in mind, couldn't they please people simply for the sake of their goal?

    So I think there's a variable that decides this all: whether the ultimate outcome of the goal is intended to help others or themselves.

    I feel I've dealt with both sides, but mostly the latter. I have a friend that will "help" you, but in the end it had nothing to do with friendship, but an underlying goal in which I have to "keep my end of the deal" and help out with. I think this also has to do with charisma and trying to uphold it in order to accomplish a goal.

    Am I talking about Hitler yet?


    Your subject line is so rude - Sounds like you have been let down by an ENFJ. They have been some of my best friends. I see what you are saying but your delivery is off putting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Really not the Fe users' fault.
    I agree. It's just like the kid who was born crippled.

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