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[INFJ] INFJ attraction

ReadingRainbows

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I have one INFJ friend and we hit it off very well. Whenever someone joins in our conversation, s/he eventually gives up, claiming said INFJ and I have "our own language." We share the love for random, "sad-looking" things, like ruins, or restaurants with 3 tables, a certain aria.

A romantic relationship with an INFJ? I'm open to it, but for the life of me I can't guess what it would be like.

When it's good it's really good. When it's bad it's really bad. I dated another infj when I was A LOT younger (earlier teens) and it was like this odd heavenish thing. I love him to death. It ended all chaotic and messy, but it started with a Bang. It was awesome. Totally awesome. If I ever found something like that again I'd leap at the chance to have it.
I love other infjs, as friends, lovers or whatever. I just don't like assholes :)
 

highlander

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The funny thing with me is that I'm an INFJ who grew up with unusual people, - INFj's like unusual things, so, in my case, an unusual thing would be someone normal. :huh:

But 'Jerry Seinfeld' is an INFJ, and I knew someone that acted like him- and we were good friends, and I've heard people say that INFJ's like INFJ's, so from my experience, that's probably the only type that people have said an INFJ is attracted, who I'm attracted to. :blush:

Anyone understand??? :whistling:

I have read this four times and cannot follow. Must not be a morning person.
 

Quiet

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Seinfeld is in no way INFJ


I don't know about that, I actually think he is. His character on the show might not always portray an INFJ persona, but I'm sure irl he is more likely slightly different. I do see INFJ qualities about him in his show though. In his show is strikes me as fairly shallow, so I'm sure that depth is there irl, or at least I would hope so!
 

thirtiesgirl

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I don't know about that, I actually think he is. His character on the show might not always portray an INFJ persona, but I'm sure irl he is more likely slightly different. I do see INFJ qualities about him in his show though. In his show is strikes me as fairly shallow, so I'm sure that depth is there irl, or at least I would hope so!

If you'll pardon my close reading of the show Seinfeld, of which I was a big fan, yes the show was shallow, but there was depth in its shallowness, if you get my meaning. It was a "show about nothing," the daily minutiae of everyday interaction between four very self-centered, shallow and (in George's case) highly anxious people. And what could be deeper than examining the seemingly pointless everyday interactions, relationships, complaints, petty arguments and ridiculous situations of four people trying to live their lives?

There was even a running joke on Seinfeld when Jerry and George decided to write their own television sit-com and were marketing it to NBC executives. George and Jerry couldn't come up with any brilliant ideas as a "hook" for their sit-com, so they marketed it to NBC execs as a "show about nothing." Seinfeld was often criticized in its 9 year run for the seeming shallowness and self-centeredness of the characters. So what more fitting ending than to have Jerry, George, Elaine and Kramer all end up trapped together in a single jail cell somewhere in the midwest, for committing some ridiculous crime they didn't even know they'd committed, stuck with each other for eternity. Jerry knew the characters were shallow and self-centered, but that was the basis of his comedy: examining and finding the sometimes painful comedy in these little lives that we all strive to lead, with our bickering, petty arguments, self-centeredness, etc. They deserved each other and Jerry knew it.

...Apologies. Hehe. Seinfeld rant over. :blush:
 

Billy

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Lol, I think I understand what you are saying. Most of my interests are a bit odd, and because of them, I've met and enjoyed the company of very odd people. For some reason, I tend to have a strange attraction to the innocent and normal "girl next-door" when looking back on love relationships.

or would this apply more to my ISFP sister who only goes to shows featuring experimental indie bands, but will pop in a Britney Spear CD every once in awhile?

Interesting, I have a lot of types... for sexual gratification I love the evil INTJ tattoo artist bisexual type. She bites me, rips my flesh and uses me for her pleasure, I am a pawn in her game of chess, and I love every minute of it. I love being a sub anyway.

For a relationship though

I totally want the girl next door. I want her to be kind, friendly, affectionate and intelligent. I want her to be fe based and want to help those around her. I want her to love life the way I do...

Its wierd, I had that epiphany tonight. I met this girl, turns out she is into MBTI because she studied it for her Psych major when she went into patient care for the mentally disabled. Shes an ISFJ, shes cute, tall, intelligent, and everything the girl next door is. The 1st time i talked to her for about 3 hours eating a cold pizza, she actually managed to touch me and make me smile and intrigue me with her massive empathy.

I think we like the girl next door type because secretly inside all INFJs esp INFJ males want that stabilizing relationship, want that family stone to feel a place of safety and shelter in. The most logical choice for that is the girl next door.
 

Tikka

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I feel great around fellow INFJs. Though sometimes, for a relationship, I feel that two INFJs is just too quirky, both with our own set of standards and unique view on the world and people and of course thinking intuitively we're both right.

So perhaps a caring ISFJ would be a better option, though preferably one who can admire strong N insights. Then again in return, of course you'd have to let yourself live in the moment more.

Well I dunno. T females strain me very much usually, I have the feeling I need to be on my toes at all times, or I'd get trampled under them.

I love being a sub anyway.

Hm, interesting. I think I'd feel comfortable and uncomfortable at the same time. I had a dominant mother. ;) ;) ;) So while I'd find the situation 'secure', I know by experience that it's a very unnatural situation (dominant female, submissive male) which will implode sooner or later. Which makes me uncomfortable.

Don't you just love Ni.
 

Billy

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I feel great around fellow INFJs. Though sometimes, for a relationship, I feel that two INFJs is just too quirky, both with our own set of standards and unique view on the world and people and of course thinking intuitively we're both right.

So perhaps a caring ISFJ would be a better option, though preferably one who can admire strong N insights. Then again in return, of course you'd have to let yourself live in the moment more.

Well I dunno. T females strain me very much usually, I have the feeling I need to be on my toes at all times, or I'd get trampled under them.



Hm, interesting. I think I'd feel comfortable and uncomfortable at the same time. I had a dominant mother. ;) ;) ;) So while I'd find the situation 'secure', I know by experience that it's a very unnatural situation (dominant female, submissive male) which will implode sooner or later. Which makes me uncomfortable.

Don't you just love Ni.

im only a sub sexually lol and only if its with the right girl.
 

kccrush

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I definitely want the "girl next door" - she should be less quirky, less emotional than me, but still have some of that so that we can connect. I like stronger personalities to offset when I'm feeling like disappearing. I want her to complement me. The idea of dating someone just like me gives me the creeps. In fact, I have a date tonight with a girl who I met once before. We spent six hours together on our first date, but then I started to think about how I feel, and she's just two levels too deep. In other words, we connected too much, had too much intimacy from the very beginning. That is too overwhelming to me, and I'd prefer to know I had that in a friend, rather than a lover, gf, partner, etc. I want my partner to be less of me...but still more than me. Hard to find, that's fo'shure :)
 

Lily flower

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I can't stand ENFJs. They seem so fake and phoney to me. It's like they're very manipulative in letting people feel good about themselves. While manipulation isn't necessarily a bad thing, I'm more taken aback by the person excecuting the manipulation.

I mean, at least for myself, I *know* when I'm evil or doing good while I'm manipulating peoples' feelings. ;)

INFJs are better for me. At least I can't see the manipulation going on. :jew:

Knowing some ENFJ's, I can say that they may appear to be manipulative, but at their core they really really want to help people. I think the reason they may be perceived as manipulative is just because they have such good people skills that people find themselves putty in the ENFJ's hands.
 

Lily flower

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I definitely want the "girl next door" - she should be less quirky, less emotional than me, but still have some of that so that we can connect. I like stronger personalities to offset when I'm feeling like disappearing. I want her to complement me. The idea of dating someone just like me gives me the creeps. In fact, I have a date tonight with a girl who I met once before. We spent six hours together on our first date, but then I started to think about how I feel, and she's just two levels too deep. In other words, we connected too much, had too much intimacy from the very beginning. That is too overwhelming to me, and I'd prefer to know I had that in a friend, rather than a lover, gf, partner, etc. I want my partner to be less of me...but still more than me. Hard to find, that's fo'shure :)


Wow. I love the intemacy and deepness with a romantic partner. I can't imagine being interested long term in someone that I only knew on a shallow level.
 

Tikka

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Knowing some ENFJ's, I can say that they may appear to be manipulative, but at their core they really really want to help people. I think the reason they may be perceived as manipulative is just because they have such good people skills that people find themselves putty in the ENFJ's hands.

The really really want to help people in a way that they seem fit. :) Some people may not agree with their method or views and therefore find them manipulative.

Although MBTI doesn't cover for that, I agree that most ENFJs do mean it well from inside.
 

mochajava

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Interesting! I'm the opposite; I attribute the deep connection I have with my INFJ friends to the fact that we process things similarly and think so much alike, and the very Ni-based conversations we can have. But maybe I've gotten better over the years at trusting/taking risks, and connecting deeply, relatively quickly...

I'm with you on this one! So many of my close female friends have taken an MBTI and tested INFJ. I also have lots of INTJs in my life.

Prime:
As far as INFJ-INFJ romance... no thanks. Seeing someone else with the same problems as me is a major turnoff.
Aww, really? I had one. It was incredibly intense and wonderful. Eventually unhealthy, I think because we were so young and didn't get it. But it was so beautiful, close, and... yeah, this is just me :)

Like how Rainbows put it:

When it's good it's really good. When it's bad it's really bad. I dated another infj when I was A LOT younger (earlier teens) and it was like this odd heavenish thing. I love him to death. It ended all chaotic and messy, but it started with a Bang. It was awesome. Totally awesome. If I ever found something like that again I'd leap at the chance to have it. I love other infjs, as friends, lovers or whatever. I just don't like assholes

BlackCat:
If you want pure comfort then go for it. Same type relations are extremely stable.

What do you mean by pure comfort? And why are they extremely stable? Nice avatar, btw!
 

Rachel

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Probably not good to base anything on type because it is very easy to stereotype. But if i had to describe the ideal attraction, i find that i'm drawn to NTs Or NXPs, not sure if this would be a good match. I have high enough Ti but would like someone with well developed Fe. I live with a family member who is an S, and it's sometimes difficult to communicate, because we see things differently. But when i take time to observe and listen to S, i learn quite a bit. But for the sake of a relationship, an N would probably be a better fit. I once thought INTPs would be a good fit or INTJs but not sure. I think it would be good to have an E, since i'm I. ENFJs or an ENTP with a well developed Fe may work as long as there is an attraction, care, and committment, these could probably work.
 

Fenekk

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To be honest, I don't know what "type" would suit me best... I have only been in one relationship and I'll admit that while it ended in unusual circumstances it was indeed very good; it was with an INXP. He was so hard to type because he was obviously very logical-minded but also very close to others too. I'm pretty sure he was INTP with well-developed feeling.

However, in an ideal situation I think I would probably be best with someone of a different type. When it comes to the T/F side of things, I really prefer a person with F or well-developed feeling because I just don't get that from the world. (My mother and my stepdad maybe, but the rest of the world, definitely not.) I think I would do better with an extrovert too, because I am so highly introverted. Also I get overwhelmed easily around others, so an IF would probably give me too much attention if we were together a lot (and that's not good, either). I get uncomfortable around people who are too Sensing-oriented, usually because of materialism and their habit of liking change (change is good, but too much is...). As far as P/J goes, I'm kind of weak on the J side of things myself. My mom's side is almost wholly J oriented (except her brother) and my dad's is mostly P oriented (except one of his brothers). I think I could go either way on that. A J would probably keep me in line a bit more (if they don't nag; I HATE nagging despite probably doing my share of it) and a P would probably encourage me to loosen up more, both of which are logical viewpoints in different situations.

I have a bit of trouble applying MBTI to real people, and besides, I feel like it is a bit too close to home if I do anyway, so in considering what I want in a person I might date or marry, I usually consider personality traits based on fictional characters. (That way I don't feel like it's too personal or anything, because it's really nothing but a social experiment ;)) A few of the characters I feel like I would get along with are ENFJ, ESFP, and INFP, moreso the ENFJ and INFP than the ESFP. Seeing as I know a male INFP (who likes me, but who I would have an unhealthy relationship with because he is terribly dependent, and while he is a good friend, I feel like he relies on me to help him with his personal problems way too much) and he is nothing like this character (who is independent and protective of those he holds dear), I don't know.

In short, my findings tell me that MBTI is not enough. Granted, sometimes MBTI traits can correlate with what you are looking for in a significant other. I know that I would probably prefer an intuitive extrovert with well developed Feeling. I also know that I would be best with an independent guy (while being highly independent myself), which is a trait not managed by MBTI. All people are different, anyway... 16 types just isn't enough.
 

lushelocution

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Me and my twin fraternal brother are both INFJ's.

And I should say - there are a bunch of positives and negatives about our relationship.




Positives:
1) We are mind readers. Well, practically. :) I can look at him a certain way and he can look at me a certain way, and we can instantly know what we're talking about. This happens on a daily basis. Sometimes people around us will ask us what we're doing, and we'll both translate the non-verbal communication back, almost in an identical way.

2) Whenever I am feeling something incredibly complex and cannot articulate it, he can just look at me, smile, and say, "I understand." I do the same thing to him. I guess because we both operate on extreme feelings, we understand the need to "get it out" and the frustration of not being understood after these feelings are revealed.

3) He does his thing, I do mine. We recognize the need for alone time. Sometimes we'll spend entire days in different rooms, group up at the end of the day, and my mom will look at us and say, "did you guys have a good day together?" and we'll both smile and say, "yes! perfect." At the same time, sometimes we have days where we are completely inseparable. He'll want to constantly hold my hand or be really huggy, and I'll respond the same way. :)




Negatives:
1) When we have emotional outbursts, which happens from time to time, we respond to each other aggressively. Not with anger, but with confusion, like "where did this come from?" :doh: And we respond by mirroring each other. When he is frustrated or sad, I get frustrated and sad. When he gets reclusive, I get reclusive. Our negativity feeds off each other. We typically need someone else to intervene and "pull us out" so to speak. That's probably why we have a mutual friend that's an ESFP - he usually comes around and gets us out of our muck-rut.

2) When we're apart for a long time from each other, we get drained much faster - I think because we have a tendency to surround ourselves with E people to counteract our I-ness. Being together is rejuvenating, being apart is sapping. Plus the fact that we feel, most of the time, the only people that understand us is each other... which leads to frustrations with our friends and s/o's. It's kind of fatalistic thinking when you have someone there who gets you completely and everyone else doesn't come close. :blush:

3) We both try to be more P and less J with each other, which leads to alot of debate about the dumbest stuff. Like, where we want to eat dinner. He'll say, "anywhere you want to go" and I'll say the same thing, but in the end we both want to go to different places and then we'll get stubborn about it and have an argument. That's typically when our P friends come in and tell us we can do both... haha.




Weird things:
1) EMPATHY BATTLES! We don't operate on fighting - we operate through giving. But if he out gives me, I'll get frustrated and angry and then give him something back or do something that's bigger and better. It gets a little out of control sometimes. It's not typically material objects - usually it's taking people out to dinner or cooking or cleaning or gestures of affection... but it's annoying when you have someone around always trying to outdo you to be the "better" INFJ. :shock: It's like one big passive-aggressive, warm-fuzzy-feeling battle.
 

EmikoNiwa

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I do know that I get along with XNXP very well and prefer it. It would probably be in my best intrests to seek out an ENXP since I beleive my friend who passed was one and we got along very well. That and I enjoy fighting for sport. Granted, it could be taken wrong if the person takes me too seriously.
 

r.a

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i usually get along famously with other INFJ's in real life. i am attracted to their familiar way of being. its like we are from the same planet. the positives usually outweigh the negatives in that regard. the only other type i feel that actually understands INFJ's (instead of thinking they do) would be ISTP. thats just from my experience.
 
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