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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    Oh I hear you on that. Sometimes, it's a useless endeavour, like punching a ball of tar. You just wind up getting stuck in the mess. If they aren't ready, just walk away. There's never anything wrong with walking away if you've done all you can.
    Gragh. So.. I guess I just continue sitting on the sidelines and trying to be accepting and not give up. Whoooo humanistic approach. ..I think it's actually working, though. He came to me for advice before doing something spiteful once!
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    HAHAHA!! Did he now?? LOL! That's a good sign! Did you kick his shin?
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    No, I didn't kick him. XD Though I do often have fantasies (along with his brother) of beating some sense into him with a baseball bat.

    I just told him what I would do.

    I suppose I can get slightly back on topic and share the story as an ENFJ gripe. (This is the same ENFx that I mentioned before.)

    Basically.. he's a WoW player. And this guild he was in went off and created a private server and didn't invite him. (there was a whole lot of melodrama going on in the guild at the time and he disagreed about something or other with one of the leaders, so he figured that's why he wasn't invited.) He wanted to turn them in since making a private server is illegal and being a jerk filled guild isn't very credible(Hey, look.. there's the ENFJ self-righteousness kicking up!), but for whatever reason asked me what he should do first. I told him if it were me, I'd just laugh at how silly they're being and how horrible the roleplay on the server would be anyway. Sure, it's illegal, and if that's why you want to turn them in, fine, but if you do it out of spite, that's no better than they are. (Again with the "But I'm right!")

    Though he said he was going to do it regardless, it turned out that he didn't and was eventually invited to play anyway and it was crap, and he just drifted away from them.

    Very little and irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, but progress nonetheless, don't you think? ^_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by runvardh View Post
    It's a real pain in the ass to show them that yes you really do give a shit, 100 fucking %.
    I think INFP's give 105 % at their best.

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    I have seen ENFJ's cut other's down because of moral principles that themselves do not live up to. For example, calling another woman a slut and then engaging in sexually permiscuous(sp) behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    ENFJs are always right... even when they aren't. They also can do odd things like insist that there are deep meanings in the lyrics to Metallica songs and calling me an evil cold hearted bitch for not crying at movies when I know how they end because they're based on a true story that everyone should know. ENFJs know the answers to everything... even when they don't. They also sometimes do horrible and odd things like listen to the same song or watch the same movie over and over and over and make a poor ISTP want to kill them!

    These are things that all 3 ENFJs I know do rather consistantly!
    Intriguingly, they are also your shadow. Your roles reversed, your arch nemesis. Be weary, for when you are in the grips of an evil ENFJ, it is the mirror reflection of your own dark ISTP soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    Something I hate about ENFJs: Emotional brutality when in the grip.
    Yes. And this coming from an INTP. One time, an ENFJ and I had it out. And I was pleasantly impressed(hurt) by the stuff she used to tear me bits. I mean I pushed at very hard calling attention to every perceived flaw I saw in her but she could be so dead on in calling attention to my flaws. We have since talked about it and I have to give her credit. She will make one kick ass lawyer one day. Vicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schizm View Post
    Yes. And this coming from an INTP. One time, an ENFJ and I had it out. And I was pleasantly impressed(hurt) by the stuff she used to tear me bits. I mean I pushed at very hard calling attention to every perceived flaw I saw in her but she could be so dead on in calling attention to my flaws. We have since talked about it and I have to give her credit. She will make one kick ass lawyer one day. Vicious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schizm View Post
    Intriguingly, they are also your shadow. Your roles reversed, your arch nemesis. Be weary, for when you are in the grips of an evil ENFJ, it is the mirror reflection of your own dark ISTP soul.
    I thought I liked me! How can someone that horrid be a reflexion of my soul? (hmmm... If I sold my soul would I be getting rid of aforementioned evil ENFJ?)

    I can only hope that when society is forced to accept F males they're made to realize that T females aren't all ice queens!!!

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    My ISTP best friend and I used to give each other looks sometimes, like "You thinkin' what I'm thinkin'? And if so, stop that!"
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