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    More human than human MetalWounds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by theshadow View Post
    enfj's neurotic predispositions. if there is in fact particular forms of neurosis more likely to be found amongst the type. and if so, what are they? I am in fact wary of my own instability. that said, I am curious what other enfj's experience with this is.
    ENFJs I have yet to conclude a strong correlation between the type and neurosis. INTJs however, draw a strong connection to Autism, Aspergers, and, Schizotypal disorder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalWounds View Post
    ENFJs I have yet to conclude a strong correlation between the type and neurosis. INTJs however, draw a strong connection to Autism, Aspergers, and, Schizotypal disorder.
    I read somewhere that ENFJ is most closely associated with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrongvk12 View Post
    I read somewhere that ENFJ is most closely associated with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder.
    False. The listing was Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder. OCD and OCPD are VERY different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    Both examples sound like ESFJs to me, Merkw.

    I've never been a cheerful person, nor have any other ENFJs I've ever met. We're the doom squad of the Fe world, not the sunshine.

    And I don't do "stoic".

    Eruptions?

    Oh yes.
    Hm. My mother is definitely not an ESFJ. ENFJ is my first choice, and ENFP is my second. True, the other person could be an ESFJ, but based off my observations, ENFJ seems more likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrongvk12 View Post
    Specimen?? It sounds like you were stalking her in a petri dish or something. Sometimes I just love the wording that INTJs use when describing people, places or things. You're all so interesting...in a good way.
    Indeed, indeed. I have a tendency of comparing people to unimportant sub-human things.

    Once during the beginning of 9th grade, my father asked me whether I had made any friends at school, to which I replied "Does one usually befriend pawns on a chessboard?"
    "The mathematician's patterns, like the painter's or the poet's must be beautiful; the ideas like the colours or the words, must fit together in a harmonious way. Beauty is the first test: there is no permanent place in the world for ugly mathematics..." - G.H. Hardy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalWounds View Post
    Agreed, ENFJs have an amazing ability to help humanity, if their cause is devoted to logic, rather than their own moral devotion.
    This is fallacious.

    Look at the order of functions. Fe>Ni>Se>Ti.

    Fe is dominant. Logic, the weakest leg on the table. We err when forced into objective reasoning divorced from the human component. You show little competent understanding of the theory behind the cognitive processes if you assert standard logic to be the savior of an Fe dominant type.

    INTJ - Ni>Te>Fi>Se

    Logic isn't your dominant function either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkw View Post
    Indeed, indeed. I have a tendency of comparing people to unimportant sub-human things.

    Once during the beginning of 9th grade, my father asked me whether I had made any friends at school, to which I replied "Does one usually befriend pawns on a chessboard?"
    And you questioned your INTJ-ness, Merkw? You sound like my best friend.
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    a good ENFJ is awesome! They're a loyal friend who can be quirky and funny and make you feel great about yourself! A good ENFJ is absolutely WONDERFUL- they're caring and FUN!

    an ENFJ gone bad is a different story they use thier powers of charisma and influence for evil and manage to crush every bit of self worth out of you- as though you are the wine grape and they are the foot that's squashing you into oblivion! NO ONE can make a person feel more worthless than a bad ENFJ!
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    I know! I've got that guy earmarked for My Mighty Smiting Pimp-Slap Hand of Justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkw View Post
    False. The listing was Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder. OCD and OCPD are VERY different.
    Yes, I meant to type in OCPD....however.....if you read the definition....it seems like OCPD does not fit with ENFJ.

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