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    More human than human MetalWounds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrongvk12 View Post
    I agree. If metalwounds wasn't opposed to any sexual situation, where does the manipulation fit in? Is it possible that he maniuplated her, but acting like he didn't care or was too hard to reach emotionally....you know...being really NT? Don't ENFJs have a large need to be liked?
    Interesting analysis, one I have concluded myself, but was holistically inadvertent. It would seem as if she manipulated herself in an attempt to break me down at any possible level, without regard to benefit toward herself. Thus creating a situation that was against her original motives/logic, yet pursued anyway in order to feel a sense of accomplishment. (an inherent NF trait)
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    Yeah, maybe the greater purpose was sex? A win-win situation!

    Anyway, MetalWounds, you're cool with me. I think you got some ass and now you're worried that you actually like her, but you know given enough time she'd break through your armor or whatever you call it. If she likes you I predict more ass in your future. Don't worry about it.
    An amusing prediction...We shall see what the future holds...Getting some/opening my armor, now that is truly a decision in which I will have much difficulty reaching.
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    You seem to come out on top in any analysis. (Pun... intended?)

    Frankly, no INTJ has ever gotten the better of me. My best friend is one and we never bother to manipulate each other. Why would we. We're tribesmen. We "get" it.

    INTPs can crack me like an egg though. And my ENFP sister has a pretty mean half-Nelson. Never fight with an ENFP. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalWounds View Post
    It would seem as if she manipulated herself in an attempt to break me down at any possible level, without regard to benefit toward herself. Thus creating a situation that was against her original motives/logic, yet pursued anyway in order to feel a sense of accomplishment.
    I don't get where you're going with this, so I'm going to put what I am interpreting from what you are saying.

    "I'm interested in this ENFJ girl who appears to want my balls. But I don't think there's any way that someone like her likes someone like me so there must be some kind of manipulation involved. And I enjoy sex, but she probably doesn't, except in the sense that she gets a feeling of accomplishment."

    Provide corrections as necessary.
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    than to serve and obey them. - David Hume

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    here .
    *Her...corrections complete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalWounds View Post
    *Her...corrections complete.
    ah, noted and edited
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    ah, noted and edited
    No further corrections are warranted.
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    There are two prominent ENFJs that immediately come to mind.

    (1) My mother. Very kind and caring, but overly neurotic. She is a perfect example of the prototypical doting Yiddish mother. One thing that irritates me about her is the fact that her inferior function is Ti, which shows most notably when she is stressed; during times of stress, she tries to act stoic and unemotional, attempting to use hardcore "reasoning." The amount of flaws in this so-called "reasoning" is beyond amusement.

    (2) A female specimen of my age, whom I decided to stalk when I was in 7th and 8th grade. She gradually became rather frightened of me. Eventually, she also began to irritate me greatly by her artificial Fe-cheeriness. It was almost as if she purposefully over-dosed on anxiolytics each morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalWounds View Post
    *Her...corrections complete.
    Hee! Hee! You remind me SO much of my INTJ friend. He always tries to deflect the attention off of himself and on another issue (actual corrections) to avoid any real delving into his emotions. Psssst...we're on to you.

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    Both examples sound like ESFJs to me, Merkw.

    I've never been a cheerful person, nor have any other ENFJs I've ever met. We're the doom squad of the Fe world, not the sunshine.

    And I don't do "stoic".

    Eruptions?

    Oh yes.
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