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    I'm a swinger. Love people, hate people. Sometimes both at the same time.
    "I'll walk with you through space and time and when sleep is near I will fold you in, I'll disappear with you in clear blue flames, and when our time arrives we will slide through space."

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    I used to call myself a misanthrope. I thought I acsolutely hated humanity. I truly believed that we're all worthless scum.

    And then it occurred to me that I didn't hate humans, I just hate how so many humans waste their lives and their potential to really give the planet something back, whether it be art, literature or a vegetable patch...

    I think that it seems that for INFP's, what appears to be misanthropy really just seems to be disappointment. We love people so much, its so sad to see them be so greedy. At least that's what it's like for me...

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    I'm interested in this discussion. It seems like most of you are saying:

    Idealism & optimism -> bad shit happens -> disappointment & disillusionment -> misanthopy

    But is that really all that's to it, guys? And do you really think NFPs are that prone to this? Is it inevitable that we end up like this?

    I have to admit as I get older my eyes are increasingly opened to the unpleasant realities going on around me. I've started to really wonder about the way the world works and the cruel things everyday people are capable of. Yet, I seem to be frequently trying to find a way to reconcile the negative stuff into a theory of humanity that I can ultimately live with. And its hard work but I think its worth it. I mean, if NFPs don't have hope, then who will?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    I mean, if NFPs don't have hope, then who will?
    The proles...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biaxident View Post
    Those of us who survive to adulthood seem to develop some sort of coping mechanism. It could be a hard shell, or the ability to not give a damn what others think.

    Hard shell: NFJ
    Not give a damn what others think: NFP

    ???

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    Au contraire, at least as far as I'm concerned
    I'm quite susceptible to criticism or sometimes even gossip, and I definitely appreciate encouragement. Though I rarely show it when criticism hits me (and it hits me often), at least not in public, I have to talk to my friends who can give me reassurance that it's usually unwarranted.
    Especially when someone makes an incompetent judgment about things that are really important to me, it can throw me so completely off track as to render me speechless and maybe cause my eyebrow to raise. Take all of the above together, and you might get the impression of indifference
    IN SERIO FATVITAS.

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    And then it occurred to me that I didn't hate humans, I just hate how so many humans waste their lives and their potential to really give the planet something back, whether it be art, literature or a vegetable patch..
    Sounds a bit like me about 5 or 6 years ago. I was a straight A student in high-school and thought that I had to someday make some mark on the world otherwise my life would have been a waste.

    Then I put it all into the bigger perspective... No matter what I do, what I accomplish or achieve, given enough time, it will become meaningless and will be lost even beyond the history books.
    I stand here on this little, tiny blue speck of a planet, that hangs in a cosmos that dwarfs it beyond all imagining. And in my tiny part of this tiny blue speck the entirety of my life will be played out alongside the lives of another 6 billion people.

    Nothing I achieve or create will ever change the fact that my life, in the grand scheme of things is virtually meaningless.

    For me, the only thing that makes sense is to try and help make sure my friends and those around me can also enjoy their brief turn at life. If at the end of my time here, even a single other person's life has been a bit easier and a bit happier thanks to me, I will die totally satisfied.
    Everything else I do is just me enjoying life and filling in the time between being useful to that end.

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    SO in summary... (LOL) my cure to Misanthropy is a bit of perspective:

    YouTube - Carl Sagan - Pale Blue Dot

    Enjoy!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danse_Macabre View Post
    I used to call myself a misanthrope. I thought I acsolutely hated humanity. I truly believed that we're all worthless scum.

    And then it occurred to me that I didn't hate humans, I just hate how so many humans waste their lives and their potential to really give the planet something back, whether it be art, literature or a vegetable patch...

    I think that it seems that for INFP's, what appears to be misanthropy really just seems to be disappointment. We love people so much, its so sad to see them be so greedy. At least that's what it's like for me...
    I think you nailed it... I know I'm down as an XNFP and most of my friends what say I'm extroverted but most times I CAN'T STAND PEOPLE...I'm a socialized INFP if there is such a thing... I hole myself up in a bookstore and I hope I don't know anybody walking through because I just don't want to talk to f***ing nobody... I think my faith in something beyond this world has helped me reconcile with all the bullshit going on here on earth and how people treat each other... although I am a big Boondock Saints fan and fantasize about eradicating the evil on Earth "so the good may flourish." (An admittedly dark fantasy not YET reenacted)

    But, getting to the point, I agree with how people waste their lives... I refuse to do anything if I don't find a shred of meaning in it. I'd like to think we dislike most people but still have a soft spot for the good people (1%). I still don't think I could hate all people though... Way too generalized for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris09 View Post
    For me, the only thing that makes sense is to try and help make sure my friends and those around me can also enjoy their brief turn at life. If at the end of my time here, even a single other person's life has been a bit easier and a bit happier thanks to me, I will die totally satisfied.
    Everything else I do is just me enjoying life and filling in the time between being useful to that end.
    Love your perspective

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    Love your perspective
    Thanks man. Don't get me wrong though, 99% of the time I fail, but these things take time I s'pose

    The thing I'm curious about in this thread is that with all these NFP and their supposedly overly empathetic nature, I would have expected a bit more of a "Well, they are doing what they think is best, even if that is different to what I think would be best" type of attitude...?

    (P.S. Anyone watch that video? It is a real favorite of mine! )

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