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    So fun to watch Fe-ers and Fi-ers duke it out for who's the most exquisitely sensitive.
    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    So fun to watch Fe-ers and Fi-ers duke it out for who's the most exquisitely sensitive.
    It's the F version of T's competing for who is smarter or more educated and informed.

    How embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    And y'all are forgetting that whatever the F is doing, the T, the N and the S are doing stuff too. So, pure Fi doesn't give one rat's ass about other people, but no person has pure Fi, they have it in conjunction with other functions, both perceiving and judgment. So, an ENFP will get flooded by other people's feelings (if they recognise them) via Ne because that's what Ne does when it's attuned to F, and the same for an INFP, and SPs get it via Se+Ni, and so on and on.

    But the FJs and the TPs get it mainlined, straight in through a judgment function, Fe. Their judgment tells them, stabbing their hearts directly, uninterpreted, what is right and wrong in the landscape.

    I suppose, anyway.
    (ISTP)...The last paragraph seems essentially correct, although it might just be confirmation bias. I mean, putting down all this MBTI stuff, that happens to other people...right?

    Otherwise, everything else seems consistent and in-line with theory.
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    Developing Fe
    I'm still having a hard time with it. Thats why I'm trying to find an INFJ or ENFJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamboo View Post
    (ISTP)...The last paragraph seems essentially correct, although it might just be confirmation bias. I mean, putting down all this MBTI stuff, that happens to other people...right?

    Otherwise, everything else seems consistent and in-line with theory.
    I seriously think that Fs get it mainlined and Ts don't, which is why Ts can be so rational and keep their distance despite their own Fe or Fi. Of course they have it, but it's filtered enough that they can be "protected" from it with their logic.

    I seriously think it's F/T more than Fi/Fe.

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    Te should be oppositional to Fe, though, correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Te should be oppositional to Fe, though, correct?
    In reality, would it be? I have high Fi and I'm not opposed to Ti. In fact theoretically speaking my Ti is probably more developed than my Te.

    Therefore, I don't think that a TJ would necessarily not be able to develop Fe or value it highly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    I think it's possible that Fs actually get this mainlined, and Ts are just able to filter it out better, whether they have Fi or Fe. That's why you think Fi needs Te to even do something for other people, and why an ENTP might think that Fe only serves a "means to an ends" purpose to pacify other people to shut up.
    Eh, you sensitive types. Not seeing the theory for the tears.

    Fi literally makes no decisions whatsoever about anything outside of itself. It literally cannot. However, in conjunction with perceptions of current events (Nx/Sx), and details of truths and available processes (Te), it will pop out an answer about what YOU know to be right and wrong. And this will probably be an enduring decision drawn from wider truths of feeling. And then the rest of the person joins in with details of what you're going to do about it. That Fi provided the core value is not the same as saying Fi decided the action.

    Switch it around for Fe users and see what it looks like:

    Fe assigns literally immediate values of good and bad to whatever goes on outside of the person.


    I don't suppose any of this means, say, that y'all big sensitive crybabies have different reaction times to other people being unhappy. Who knows who would win the empathy Olympics, it might come down to high speed stopwatches. Indeed it means that y'all are all big sensitive crybabies, and you're sensitive to different aspects of the same thing. Saying so doesn't stop you being sensitive. Refusing to say so might stop the other side being allowed to say so in your presence. (Which seems to happen a lot here.)




    And Ni+Te+Fi can mimic Fe if the person is really, really, really motivated to turn themselves inside out because the Ni+Te would still show up as impersonal and the Fi still looks selfish. Now, Ne+Fi on the other hand, that might pull it off.
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    Does this make Fi users extremely subjective?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    In reality, would it be? I have high Fi and I'm not opposed to Ti. In fact theoretically speaking my Ti is probably more developed than my Te.

    Therefore, I don't think that a TJ would necessarily not be able to develop Fe or value it highly.
    It might also be psuedo and situational. I have no Te that I know of realistically, but I do things with a Psuedo Te when my Ni, Fe, and Ti combine. But it wont work on things like data or numbers, only in social groups that deal with me being a strategist with relationships and people and being able to find mutual benefits and such in a semi logical way. But the way I arrive at the Te is sort of convoluted and it didn't start happening until my late 20s when I had been consumed by Ni and Fe for a long time. But they say it takes 10 years to master a function naturally, if that's the case I am moving into Ti territory from Ni/Fe territory and when they act in tandem I get Te.

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