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    Default What do Fe and Fi mean to you?

    Greetings, NF forum!

    Describe Fi and Fe and what they mean to you, and how they differ from the other functions!

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    Well saying "Please" if you want something, means a lot to me. I use it to define whether a person is intelligent or not. But I admit I am highly biased on that one
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    Cookies yeah! I like chocloate chip with milk please. Would you be sending this to me through pay pal?

    Fe: Understanding the emotions of others. This could also be done because of my Ni, but I'm very good at being able to know what mood you are in and understand why you are in that mood. I often try to make decisions that would make your mood turn into the best possible mood. This is both a strength and weakness of the Fe. When building a fence the Fe would ask "How will this fence affect the community?".

    Fi: Understanding your emotions. Because you understand how your emotions work so well, it is easier for you to understand how other people's emotions work. Think of it like this: if you know how to build your car, then you would better understand how other cars are built. When building a fence Fi will say "I want to make a special fence for myself.".

    Both Fe and Fi understand emotions very easily, but they do it in totally different ways. Fe can see the emotions of others and use their Ni/Si to understand them. Fi understands the emotions of others and use their Ne/Se to express that understanding.

    I know I have a limited understanding on these functions, but that is how I intrepreted them. Feel free to correct me.

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    I wouldn't say understanding emotions is what comes natural with these functions. I don't really have much of an understanding of Fe though... but Fi is more like the drive to understand subjective truth, and a regulator of the feelings.

    For example, if something makes me angry, I'm not thinking about why I'm angry, my first reaction is to internalize it and understand it. I try to figure out whether or not my anger is justified behind my values, and whether or not the external situation has any merit. Usually I get so caught up in all of this that whatever emotion I had has subsided, and so I continue to contemplate whether whatever happened was congruent to my values.

    The Feeling function actually has little to do with emotions. It's about recognizing external or internal values, and how these apply to you and others. Emotions just accompany the values that you've chosen to hold.

    If my anger was not congruent with my internal values, I will attempt to repress it, because I believe it was wrong to feel that way. This can also lead to situations where you can be very unaware of your emotions through repression.

    On the other hand, through the subjective reality that is the Feeling function, it's very easy to become overly emotional over certain values, because your values allow free flow of emotion.

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    I agree with you, Shadow, good explanation

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    Thanks Shadow for explaining things clearly.

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    Making it really simple...

    Fe seeks external harmony, which can work it's way inward.
    Fi seeks internal harmony, which can work it's way outward.
    They kind of have similar goals, but work from opposite ends and with different methods.

    Making it long-winded...

    Fi is very imaginative, and receives it's ideas from some innate, unconscious place. It evaluates these ideas, or "feelings", and works them into a value system so that they all fit together like a puzzle and form a big picture. Conflicting ideas and emotions is often the cause of the internal turmoil many INFPs feel. We need to be peaceful inside, so sorting this out is a primary concern.

    An INFP can apply this system externally through Ne, which makes universal application in a metaphorical manner, meaning the Fi-dom does not have to experience something to be able to understand it and how it may make someone feel. This is where our ability to empathize comes from.

    Fe adjusts itself to the external, to promote that outer peace. As we all know, when the external is harmonious, then we're more at ease as individuals, and so it seeps its way inward. Fe can be a sort of social lubricant.

    Evaluations are made by a general consensus, in that Fe does not assign it's own subjective value, as Fi does. Fe may not trust it's own judgment, just as Fi may be suspicious of what is generally accepted. Fe has an innate understanding of how these standards work, and sees the value behind them. In a sense, Fe creates the external standards by understanding them to promote them as principles and not just arbitrary standards.

    Since Ni does not evaluate internally, the ideas and perceptions it makes are evaluated based upon the external. For an INFJ, that means the value is assigned through Fe. I've heard INFJs say they know what is right for someone else more easily than knowing their own feelings. That's hard for me to grasp.

    I imagine that Ni might be a Fe bullshit detector, but Fe people can tell me if that is true or not. I suppose that involves evaluation, but a Ni image might inspire Fe to re-evaluate the external values.

    I could blather on, but I think that's enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    Making it really simple...

    Fe seeks external harmony, which can work it's way inward.
    Fi seeks internal harmony, which can work it's way outward.
    They kind of have similar goals, but work from opposite ends and with different methods.

    Making it long-winded...

    Fi is very imaginative, and receives it's ideas from some innate, unconscious place. It evaluates these ideas, or "feelings", and works them into a value system so that they all fit together like a puzzle and form a big picture. Conflicting ideas and emotions is often the cause of the internal turmoil many INFPs feel. We need to be peaceful inside, so sorting this out is a primary concern.

    An INFP can apply this system externally through Ne, which makes universal application in a metaphorical manner, meaning the Fi-dom does not have to experience something to be able to understand it and how it may make someone feel. This is where our ability to empathize comes from.

    Fe adjusts itself to the external, to promote that outer peace. As we all know, when the external is harmonious, then we're more at ease as individuals, and so it seeps its way inward. Fe can be a sort of social lubricant.

    Evaluations are made by a general consensus, in that Fe does not assign it's own subjective value, as Fi does. Fe may not trust it's own judgment, just as Fi may be suspicious of what is generally accepted. Fe has an innate understanding of how these standards work, and sees the value behind them. In a sense, Fe creates the external standards by understanding them to promote them as principles and not just arbitrary standards.

    Since Ni does not evaluate internally, the ideas and perceptions it makes are evaluated based upon the external. For an INFJ, that means the value is assigned through Fe. I've heard INFJs say they know what is right for someone else more easily than knowing their own feelings. That's hard for me to grasp.

    I imagine that Ni might be a Fe bullshit detector, but Fe people can tell me if that is true or not. I suppose that involves evaluation, but a Ni image might inspire Fe to re-evaluate the external values.

    I could blather on, but I think that's enough.
    Blather on please, I was enjoying your insight more than my own
    I'm very unfamiliar with Fe, so I'd like more insight on it. Of course, Fi too.

    I'd also like to know how the Se and Si work in conjuction with Feeling, I feel like I have no understanding of the sensing function.

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    Now that I think about it some thinkers can also be really good at reading emotions.

    My problem is I tend to think of emotion when I think of feelers. I happen to be really good at reading emotions, so that doesn't help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VagrantFarce View Post
    Greetings, NF forum!
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