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    Hi I've got a question about ENFJ's: So what has to happen for an ENFJ who was very interested to start ignoring you decidedly - i.e. physically have thier back to you at all times in a party of 2 hours...?
    "Of course we spent our money in the good times. That's what you're supposed to do in good times! You can't save money in the good times. Then they wouldn't be good times, they'd be 'preparation for the bad times' times."

    "Every country in the world owes money. Everyone. So heere's what I dont get: who do they all owe it to, and why don't we just kill the bastard and relax?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yloh View Post
    ENFJs do you ever feel like you can heavily relate to the ENFPs and/or INFPs?

    It is pretty weird because I know I'm a J, but I feel like I can really relate to both the INFPs and ENFPs. I can relate to these two personality types way more than the INFJs and I know I'm a ENFJ.

    Do other ENFJs relate to this at all, or am I just different?
    My ENFJ guy friends all say I'm the female version of them, but I'm really not. I think we're more like inside-outs of each other. They exude passion externally and are organized socially, but inside they're dark and tangled, and I can be pretty tangled and morose externally, but inside I have deep feeling arranged into a hierarchy.

    We also just like a lot of the same stuff and tend to hold similar world views. While that's true of many NFs I know IRL, it seems like the inside-out effect is strongest with ENFJs I know, which sort of explains the instant attraction we have as friends.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yloh View Post
    I do the exact same thing.

    What *is* that exactly? Ni and Se pounding out a plan of action? My dad does this too, so the function order... matters or doesn't matter?
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    Just for the heck of it.... people I believe are ENFJs... anyone? Anyone?

    Micheal Urie (Marc on "Ugly Betty"):



    Nathan Fillion (Firefly):



    Stacy London (What Not To Wear) [pictured w ENTP co-host, they were adorable together]:



    George Clooney:



    Timothy Hutton:



    Eva Green (Casino Royale):

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    They exude passion externally and are organized socially, but inside they're dark and tangled, and I can be pretty tangled and morose externally, but inside I have deep feeling arranged into a hierarchy.
    I wish I could get my feelings arranged in an f***ing hierarchy. I'm downright sick of being dark & tangled. I do experience highs of happiness & adoration that seem really abnormal (at least I recognized them to be "different" from how other people feel when I was a child). Like if I find something precious, I can have such wonderful & satisfying feelings just enjoying the fact that I adore it... but it seems associated with that "dark and tangled" thing. Like I couldn't have the one without the other. Is this something anyone else experiences?

    Quote Originally Posted by tcda View Post
    Hi I've got a question about ENFJ's: So what has to happen for an ENFJ who was very interested to start ignoring you decidedly - i.e. physically have thier back to you at all times in a party of 2 hours...?
    Did you confront them or try to talk to them anyway? They either really wanted you to or really didn't. You would have known by their reaction when confronted. If they wanted you to, they were waiting for something. Maybe you said or did something they found offensive or they said something expecting feedback & didn't get it. If they really didn't want to talk to you, they may have lost interest, but it would probably be because of some choice they made. I don't know, I can't go from being "really" interested in someone to ignoring them unless I'm mad or testing them. Then again, ENFJs can seem to be flirty when they are just socializing. In this case, if they caught wind that you wanted more they may be distancing to show that they don't.

    What did they do that made them seem interested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast View Post
    I wish I could get my feelings arranged in an f***ing hierarchy. I'm downright sick of being dark & tangled. I do experience highs of happiness & adoration that seem really abnormal (at least I recognized them to be "different" from how other people feel when I was a child). Like if I find something precious, I can have such wonderful & satisfying feelings just enjoying the fact that I adore it... but it seems associated with that "dark and tangled" thing. Like I couldn't have the one without the other. Is this something anyone else experiences?



    Did you confront them or try to talk to them anyway? They either really wanted you to or really didn't. You would have known by their reaction when confronted. If they wanted you to, they were waiting for something. Maybe you said or did something they found offensive or they said something expecting feedback & didn't get it. If they really didn't want to talk to you, they may have lost interest, but it would probably be because of some choice they made. I don't know, I can't go from being "really" interested in someone to ignoring them unless I'm mad or testing them. Then again, ENFJs can seem to be flirty when they are just socializing. In this case, if they caught wind that you wanted more they may be distancing to show that they don't.

    What did they do that made them seem interested?
    What about if they asked you for contact info but never contact you?
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    I have questions

    Outwardly, ENFJs seem (to me anyway) to be the least characteristically NF of the NFs. Its like ENFJs can effectively walk that thin line between the sensor world and the intuitor world. It seems like your practicality and that friendly, harmonizing ability that Fe provides you, means you are better at 'playing the game' - something all intuitors struggle with to a degree. Or perhaps its just that you can express your idealism in a more realistic, coherent and digestible format.

    So (with all this in mind) what is it about yourself that makes you feel like a NF? How does your NF-ness express and reveal itself, particularly on an everyday level? And how do you see yourself in relation to other NFs?

    I look forward to enlightenment.

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    Did you confront them or try to talk to them anyway? They either really wanted you to or really didn't. You would have known by their reaction when confronted. If they wanted you to, they were waiting for something. Maybe you said or did something they found offensive or they said something expecting feedback & didn't get it. If they really didn't want to talk to you, they may have lost interest, but it would probably be because of some choice they made. I don't know, I can't go from being "really" interested in someone to ignoring them unless I'm mad or testing them. Then again, ENFJs can seem to be flirty when they are just socializing. In this case, if they caught wind that you wanted more they may be distancing to show that they don't.

    What did they do that made them seem interested?
    hmmm, thanks for the input

    I know she was interested at the time, because of all the usual signs.

    If it's a case of that I was supposed to give feedback and didn't and that's enough to get cold-shouldered by an ENFJ then yeh, I'm screwed, because on one "date" I counted about 10 times when I didn't give feedback and she was obviosuly looking for it. I didn't realise it was that big of a deal though. would that be enough to make an ENFJ go off a guy and ignore him?

    Also would an ENFJ woman really test a guy by ignoring him? interesting. what would be the way to pass that test? (if it's not a secret I shouldn't be told that is) :p

    Nah I didn't confront her by the way. I'd tried to get in touch before and she ignored it*, so, I figured it was up to her. I avoided looking at her straight on to, as she did with me.

    *well she did about two weeks later send a pretty formal explanation on facebook explaining why she hadn't replied. I replied to that 2 days later, in the same vein, saying it was no big deal, and that was the last contact before we saw each other at this other event where she ignored me.
    "Of course we spent our money in the good times. That's what you're supposed to do in good times! You can't save money in the good times. Then they wouldn't be good times, they'd be 'preparation for the bad times' times."

    "Every country in the world owes money. Everyone. So heere's what I dont get: who do they all owe it to, and why don't we just kill the bastard and relax?"

    -Tommy Tiernan, Irish comedian.

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    I don't make a habit of ignoring people unless they've done something so awful that I can't conscience speaking to them without hitting them with an old shoe. I can be civil to the point of pain, but ignoring someone is the last straw.

    Formal explanation? How did that read?
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast View Post
    I wish I could get my feelings arranged in an f***ing hierarchy. I'm downright sick of being dark & tangled. I do experience highs of happiness & adoration that seem really abnormal (at least I recognized them to be "different" from how other people feel when I was a child). Like if I find something precious, I can have such wonderful & satisfying feelings just enjoying the fact that I adore it... but it seems associated with that "dark and tangled" thing. Like I couldn't have the one without the other. Is this something anyone else experiences?
    I experience this, but you'll see little enthusiasm externally. INFPs are also continually figuring out their feelings, so it's not like we have a neat and easy time of it either. Do you understand how you feel better with other people?

    I was thinking about this last night incidentally. I almost find things which are "too happy" to be fake, unless there's a tinge of tragedy. When something really good happens, something really bad has to happen also.
    Often a star was waiting for you to notice it. A wave rolled toward you out of the distant past, or as you walked under an open window, a violin yielded itself to your hearing. All this was mission. But could you accomplish it? (Rilke)

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