I think the only one I know is one of my daughter's friends. I like him fine. He's a little bit of a know-it-all and he can be kind of loud, but he's a good kid and you can have an intelligent conversation with him most of the time and also, if you prove that he is wrong about something he will usually concede. Eventually.
“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.” ~ John Rogers
I've never known anyone officially typed as ENTP, but I have a few friends I'm pretty sure are ENTPs. Not the closest friends, but people I enjoy hanging out with every now and then. They are hilarious and heaps of fun, and very interesting to talk to. They like to think outside the box. I usually find it's best to talk to them with a few other people around, though. That way they get into their groove and the conversation takes off. When it's one-on-one you sometimes feel like they're getting caught between gears.
ENTJs I have a bit of difficulty with, for reasons I've outlined in other threads. In social situations, I find it easiest and most enjoyable dealing with them when they have absolutely no authority over me, be it overt or implicit. They, however, seem to find it most difficult and least enjoyable dealing with me when they have absolutely no leverage over me. So while I know some ENTJs I would loosely call "friends", they are far from my INFP inner-circle.
Actually, I find it much easier dealing with ENTJs when they are in clear and unambiguous authority over me. They really are fantastic leaders. I just prefer my friendships strictly democratic.
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I don't know anyone I've recognized as ENTJ, but I know a few ENTPs.
I think they're great. They're funny as hell and come up with some really innovative ideas. They are quite the characters, one of them sometimes just says "BORING!" if he isn't excited by something. However, if you get into a really serious discussion/debate, it can feel a little uncomfortable, too, because sometimes they seem to expect you to come up with something just so they can beat it down. They also seem to like to be able to reference as many things as possible, which is one reason why they can be a lot of fun, but it also can come off as a sign of weakness when they seem ashmed they did not know about something others seem to be fairly familiar with. One of them proudly admits they are selfish, and it actually comes off as kind of charming in a way. They can really get into one-up manship and being the best, and can be "acheivement whores" (my friend calls himself that).
Overall, I like them, and occasionally find them inspiring.
In general, I like ENTx. I've had many interesting discussions with that. GZA's comment about "challenging and beating them down" is very true. They (especially ENTPs) love a good argument. For me, one-up manship is fun only up to a certain point... after that it becomes draining. I value their input because they see things from a different approach. So they often bring up issues that I haven't thought of before.
They're like babysitting hamsters. At first, they're super fun to play with and all, but then after a while you realize how much of their crap they make you deal with. And you just can't get rid of them!! And most of the time, even when they are insensitive towards your feelings, they expect you to be sensitive to their's!!
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I have a good friend who is ENTJ. He and I get along very well. We can spend hours upon hours talking, investigating ideas, and making strange jokes. Once or twice I've been hurt by his insensitivity, but he always addresses it and finds out what's wrong. The few times he's hurt me, he's apologized and we've discussed how to avoid misunderstanding in the future.
My cousin is an ENTP (has tested twice), though he's going through a stage in which he believes himself to be an INTP. It's true that his extroversion isn't very pronounced, but his values and thinking line up more with ENTP than INTP. Anyway, we shared an apartment for 3 years and I adore him. We get along very well. He's always up to something, and we have the best conversations about life and people and ideas. He's the one who taught me to shoot and rock climb.
I refuse to engage in sport-arguments with my cousin, but I've managed to "beat down" my ENTJ's arguments once or twice. The exercise is good for me and he appreciates the challenge. Neither has ever tried to boss me--that I can remember, at least. They're both very generous and kind.
My best friend is a ENTj, I ahve knwn him for years. We get a long pretty damn well, we sort of tend to think a like. The only things that I do sometimes have problems with him is that sometimes he can be unsensitive of the things that he says or when he says them. At times he can be cruel and he says that sometimes he can't understand my logic and that I sometimes think like a woman. lol Other than that we agree on practically everything.
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Well, it's a little different depending on whether it's ENTP or ENTJ.
I think I get along okay with ENTP, as long as I'm not on a schedule, trying to do something serious, or feeling kind of sensitive. They're rather funny, actually, and they can sometimes pick up on humor of mine that other types don't notice/understand.
ENTJ is another matter altogether. They're usually fine as long as we're both working towards the same goal, and there's no emotional conflicts for me with whatever happens to be most efficient method of achieving it. They're also (usually) fairly intelligent and it can be interesting to hear their opinions on a given topic. I'm reluctant to voice any disagreement with them. Of course if they make me angry enough, there's no telling what I might say to them. That's rare however, because they usually somehow manage to avoid saying things in a way that would cause me to get extremely angry or hateful.
I don't know if the people in question that I'm thinking of actually were those particular types because I didn't administer the MBTI to them, so this is all guessing.