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    Default Really Unintelligent NFs

    This is a spin-off of the "Really unintelligent NTs-"thread.

    So basically, have people ever met really unintelligent NFs? - Every single one that I've known personally later turned out to be a mistested SFs.

    So personally, I've never known a stupid NF. Unrealistic and naive, yes. But not unintelligent.
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    Hrm, I haven't actually, to my knowledge. Definitely SF, though. Maybe our idea of, "intelligent," is just more related to N.
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    I know very few people who could be considered "unintelligent" actually, the lowest people seem to go is average. (The internet is mainly where I see unintelligence in people showing itself the most.) Part of this may be that most people have different types of skills, so I'm more impressed by them and don't notice the less smart bits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    ...So personally, I've never known a stupid NF. Unrealistic and na
    They're definitely better spellars than NTs.
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    This presumes that N=intelligent. I've never had my IQ tested and don't care to. I really don't give a rat's ass.

    I'm pretty sure I'm of average intelligence. Do people really need the validation of IQ to make them feel better about themselves? So many threads here mutate into discussions about IQ and intelligence. Are people really this lacking in self-esteem that they need constant reassurances that they're smarter than everyone else in order to feel good about themselves? This isn't much better than going out and flashing wads of cash. It's the intuitive version of a Napoleon Complex. People need to find other ways to measure themselves.

    To answer the question: I'm very sure that NF intelligence is not measurable by traditional IQ tests. To me, it seems to be more emotional and social intelligence than anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    They're definitely better spellars than NTs.
    Well for once I actually took some care to mind my grammar and your forum cuts me off for dotting the i in naive correctly - phmf!

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    There is no such thing as an unintelligent NF. They always turn out to be a different type.



    This tends to be true for NTs, SJs, and SPs as well.
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    I knew a couple of really ditsy ENFP's once, but most NF's seem to be of at least average intelligence to me... although I might be biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    This is a spin-off of the "Really unintelligent NTs-"thread.

    So basically, have people ever met really unintelligent NFs? - Every single one that I've known personally later turned out to be a mistested SFs.

    So personally, I've never known a stupid NF. Unrealistic and naive, yes. But not unintelligent.
    So what you're really saying is "stupid NFs" are really stupid, mistested SFs.

    Namely ISFJs who think they're INFPs/INFJs and then going on all the MBTI sites telling everyone how they hate other SJs?!

    Makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    "Ns are more likely to be smarter than Ss" (...) is true and is true by a large margin. However, (...) Ns don't actually significantly outnumber Ss in the high IQ bracket. The problem is in distribution. Ns have a much tighter IQ grouping and it is generally higher. Ns are, for all intents and purposes, a subset of high-IQ Ss.
    I saw no need to bold the last sentence.

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