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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Yes. That's what I'm telling you. I openly cry.
    That's your Ne working right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    And how exactly do you deal with them? Isn't that what suppressing feelings is. Hiding your emotions. Like when you feel upset but you don't show it and the more you don't show it the more it gets suppressed inside because you can't let it out.
    No, it's not a matter of hiding, it's a matter of how I process them. I consider why I am upset, and work through the emotion mentally so that I do not act rashly and become vulnerable. I can quickly surmise what an emotion means, why I am experiencing it, if it is valid, and what I should do with it.

    If I am mad, the best thing for me to do is to leave a situation so I can work it out in my head, and then return to it knowing what I need to do to resolve it. There is no denial of the emotion just because it is kept private.

    I don't need to lash out to deal with emotions. In fact, when I do lash out, it is because I cannot deal with them, and then I am reaching out for help or shucking responsibility to other people. This might happen if I get upset and cannot escape to reflect on my emotion so as to deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    That's your Ne working right there.
    Dude you're just wrong. Please.

    I can't believe I'm saying this, but where's Simulated World when you need him? LOL!!!

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    I think Ragingkaysuki used the word suppressed correctly. It is just the association we make from it. Suppress can mean:

    1. to keep from public knowledge
    2. a : to exclude from consciousness b : to keep from giving vent to

    I think I don't vent and keep my true feelings further from public knowledge than Fe types. The inferring that it means I'm somehow not dealing with things, isn't necessarily part of his statement. You don't need to choose 2a .
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    Quote Originally Posted by noigmn View Post
    I think Ragingkaysuki used the word suppressed correctly. It is just the association we make from it. Suppress can mean:

    1. to keep from public knowledge
    2. a : to exclude from consciousness b : to keep from giving vent to
    Oh so now I'm an Fe dom? Since when? Since Ragingkaysuki said so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noigmn View Post
    I think Ragingkaysuki used the word suppressed correctly. It is just the association we make from it. Suppress can mean:

    1. to keep from public knowledge
    2. a : to exclude from consciousness b : to keep from giving vent to
    Well, then it makes sense according to that definition, except the emotion is not excluded from my own consciousness. He seems to be implying that the Fi-dom pushes emotions into some deep corner so as not to deal with them. That sounds more like an NT thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    Well, then it makes sense according to that definition, except the emotion not excluded from my own consciousness. He seems to be implying that the Fi-dom pushes emotions into some deep corner so as not to deal with them. That sounds more like an NT thing.
    Yeh, he did infer that with some of the other comments. Was just saying suppression might have been the correct word to describe what we do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Yes. That's what I'm telling you. I openly cry. Sometimes I yell at people. I don't hit people, but I don't think that's a necessity in any case.

    You're not right about this. This does not mean I am an Fe dom. I think you misunderstand these functions.
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    I'm an Fe user and I express my emotions selectively. If I feel something that I think would detrimental to express (like anger), I will keep it inside. If I feel something that I think could be helpful or productive or bonding (like happiness), I will express it.

    I filter my expression of feelings based on goals. I don't think that expressing my feelings just for the sake of doing it is useful. But if I think that expressing a negative emotion could help someone or a situation, I will do it.



    People aren't robots, so this isn't always accurate, but it's true 80% of the time.


    But I'm a T Fe user, so it might be different for an F.

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    Yeah, I think if there's a big difference between keeping feelings from public knowledge (which is exactly what OrangeAppled is claiming that she does) and rejecting thoughts or feelings because they are disagreeable to the mind. The disagreement here is over the meaning of the words "suppress" and "repress."

    I'm confused, though, because it seems like emotions, by their nature, seek expression. So keeping them in, for whatever reason (so that you can go over them while you're alone, or so that you can forget them, or whatever), requires a certain amount of control. The emotions must be forced down and out of sight if you wish to keep them from public expression. That control is a form of repression. I guess the difference is that, in one situation, the person only represses the feelings long enough for them to get away and deal with it on their own. In the other, the person permanently represses the feelings. So it all boils down to a temporal distinction.
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