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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    INFJs are good at picking up people's true intentions, I'll give you that.

    They do not however, change their personalities in any way. They tend to be accomodating to people's quirks, but they do not change themselves.
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    Hmm...perhaps there are INFJs who are perceived differently. I know that the INFJ energy is pretty unmistakeable when you encounter it though. I understand what you are saying - the perception of who an INFJ is too narrow so a lot of INFJs may go unnoticed?

    That (narrow) perception of who an INFJ is still a pretty clear one, so I have sucessfully typed 2 INFJs (well, 1 INFJ and 1 INXJ) irl. Just very, very obvious INXJ energy/behavior.

    I wonder if some types are easily mis-typed as INFJ? Because there are 2-3 other people I know who I make a good guess as INFJ but have no way to confirm.

    As for being 'rare' I think it also depends on who you attract/are attracted to IRL. I can tell that there are more sensors than intuitives IRL because of my highschool, college, and work experiences - but as for my friend and social group, it's majority intuitive with more NPs than NJs. They kinda fall out of trees in certain circles. And I know lots and lots of INTPs and INFPs irl - you guys aren't so special!!! LOL. (Though INXPs on the forum have suggested a lot of INXPs especially online are mis-typed) But, you get what I mean. There are other threads on type rarity/"types you know irl" that might be interesting to check out based on your OP.

    I had my roommates take different cognitive function and myers-briggs tests (the ones that were recommended by this forum) and TWO female roommates tested repeatedly as ENFP. I could not believe it because the 3 of us are are perceived very differently by others and even another roommate did not believe we 'shared' the same personality. The chances of 3 ENFP women just happening to move in together seemed too much of a coincidence but

    Um, yeah, all that ^^ somehow related to and answered your OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slant View Post
    They always talk about cracking me like a nut and seeing my insides.

    These things called 'feelings'

    D:

    It's disturbing.

    omg......i used to say those exact words to this istp guy i know. i'd say, "you're a tough nut to crack," and he'd say, "i'm not that tough," and i'd say stuff like (when he threw me a bone [with an ulterior motive i'm sure] and let me glimpse an actual emotion), "oooh, you're all nougaty inside" and yada, yada, yada--all sorts of cracking nut metaphors.

    that's slightly disturbing. i actually checked your info to make sure you weren't him. haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    You have to see yourself in an objective perspective. In the company of an ISTP, everyone is INFJ
    Once I find an objective person who isn't a manipulative ass, I latch onto them.

    I struggle with objectivity a LOT and a lot of time I think ETPs treat me like I'm dumb and can't learn. Then I put them on my blacklist unfairly, but I would rather weed out people quickly and latch onto the ones that I feel aren't going to pass me off for mistakes I make, like stuttering, putting in wrong words, and being pretty blind to my surroundings. I have found some awesome ENPs.

    But back on topic, INFJs definitely can look like different types depending on how they grew up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyward View Post

    I struggle with objectivity a LOT and a lot of time I think ETPs treat me like I'm dumb and can't learn. Then I put them on my blacklist unfairly, but I would rather weed out people quickly and latch onto the ones that I feel aren't going to pass me off for mistakes I make, like stuttering, putting in wrong words, and being pretty blind to my surroundings. I have found some awesome ENPs.
    Wait until you get older, then everyone will start to stutter a bit, to put in wrong words and be pretty blind for his surroundings. You on the other hand, by this time, will be their Master in that feat
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    I mean it. Delete the posts or I will delete you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostInNerSpace View Post
    I mean it. Delete the posts or I will delete you.
    I will let an admin decide if it is worth deleting. I might clean it up to make it sound more professional and less emo, but otherwise it's staying up there.

    Entropie, maybe I'll just go to the party and be the only sober one to get the same results. It's closer to now than 10-20 years in the future. And everyone loooves a designated driver :rolli:
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    i think their energy has a lot to do with their enneagram type. their enneagram type helps articulate their development as an infj, ie 5s are usually the most T and knowledge focused, 4s are the most immediately expressive, and 9s and 1s are floating around somewhere in the ether (out of the 10 or so infjs i've met, i've never met one). 6s are the most fidgety and incredibly anxious (met 2 so far?).

    i recognize them pretty quickly, but their social interactions with introverted perception and Fe make it difficult to spot the difference socially from isfjs and infjs in an immediate way. talking to them and observing them, their eye movements help to discern differences, altho that can also be observed by differences in people favoring visual vs auditory vs kinesthetic information systems. so it's pretty difficult. temperament talk helps a little bit, but mostly i find temperament behavioral descriptions to be hit-or-miss. isfjs, tho, according to interaction styles are behind the scenes and isfjs are chart the course. i think this is pretty telling. underneath my responsiveness to others, i, like most infjs and chart-the-coursers, have an inner tyrant. i just need Fe judgments around me to compile and make my decision. infjs may look as passive on the outside as isjfs often do, but they rarely are on the inside. even if they don't necessarily extrovert well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the state i am in View Post
    i think their energy has a lot to do with their enneagram type. their enneagram type helps articulate their development as an infj, ie 5s are usually the most T and knowledge focused, 4s are the most immediately expressive, and 9s and 1s are floating around somewhere in the ether (out of the 10 or so infjs i've met, i've never met one). 6s are the most fidgety and incredibly anxious (met 2 so far?).
    What about 8's?

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    8s are more extroverted, more judging, and more T. it seems like a theoretical impossibility to me. infjs are usually chart-the-course rather than in-charge, which is very much like 8. they're directive and j but in an introverted + feely kind of way. their Ti is more initiating for them, but less controlling than an extroverted judging function.

    how do you see them fitting together for yourself?

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