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    Smile Ni - What does it look like in real ife?

    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    ...INTJ ...Ni Te Fi Se

    Feel free to ask any questions you might have.
    I haven't studied the MBTI functions in these expressions before.
    I don't know how much iNtuiting I really do.
    What does Ni look life in someone's life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    What does Ni look life in someone's life?
    The following descriptions of Ni from the Lenore Thomson Exegesis Wiki really resonate with me:

    Introverted Intuitions are not really ideas. They're like trains at the edge of articulated knowledge. You can't claim them or advocate them. You put on a hat, grab hold of a boxcar door, and see where they go.
    Ni is a way of knowing (or at least thinking you know) that bypasses reason, facts, evidence, the expected or intended interpretations of signs, or anything you can point to, simply giving you an awareness or belief that seems indisputably true to you, period. You can't tell by introspection how you got this idea. There is no thought process. There is only tuning into this form of awareness and just knowing.

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    There are two things it seems to do. The first, it seems to just "know" certain things without being able to pinpoint why. The second, it allows you to alter your own and other people's perspective on a situation.

    Does that make sense?

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    In a more practical sense, when you are discussing a topic and someone reframes the question -- not because they have had past experience with the question, but are simply able to see this on the fly -- and so reveals the bias that was in play before, well, that is one visible use of Ni.

    I've seen it happen on the forums here repeatedly by INxJ types.

    If you imagine the discussion/problem as a three-dimensional object, and everyone is standing on one side of the problem, viewing it from that angle, the person using Ni walks to a different side of the problem and sees it from a different angle.

    Often we assume that we are viewing something objectively, when actually there are many different perspectives that would change how we assess things. It is all a matter of where we position ourselves and place our feet.

    Just this morning, I was reading an op-ed by Chuck Colson in the back of CT magazine and found myself irked by him because of his inherent judgementalism. He notably lacks any real sense of Ni and is not even aware his idea of "truth" is built on some basic assumptions. (For one, "how the Bible should be read.") His ideas follow logically from his assumptions, but when you step outside his assumptions, there are other logical frameworks to pursue... but he essentially says, "Where I am standing is the only right place to stand."
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    What does Ni look life in someone's life?
    This might resonate with you, I know it hit me where I live (from post 45 down to the end of the page)

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...html#post30488

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    Really.

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    I identify with what Jen has described. My own mental picture of the process is to hold the idea in my hand like a large faceted stone and turn it around in my hands so I can see different sides of it. I can't not do this.

    If someone tells me that something is ________, I can't help picking it up and turning it around to see if it is still ________ from a different angle. Usually it doesn't look quite the same way if you look at it from another side. It's a little disorienting at times.

    I'm familiar with the "just knowing" thing, too. I find it disturbing a lot of the time. It bothers me when I can't backtrack in my mind and figure out the puzzle pieces my mind put together while I wasn't looking. It's kind of naughty of it to keep me in the dark like that, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    My own mental picture of the process is to hold the idea in my hand like a large faceted stone and turn it around in my hands so I can see different sides of it. .
    Freaky. I thought I was the only person who saw it that way. To think you even used the same analogy I came up with years ago. I didn't conceive that was what Ni is. I figured it was that ability to know when people were lying, just repeating stuff they read, manipulating, lying, withholding information, etc. That multiple perspective facet ability has gotten me into a lot of shit in real life.

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    I just made a post in another thread about this. Although i was comparing how both Ni and Ne might interrelate in my head. I was wondering if people's dominant functions tended to develop their opposite as well, since that is what is used the most.

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/56703-post14.html
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    So I guess it means there is trouble until the robins come
    (from Blue Velvet)

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    Quote Originally Posted by toonia View Post
    I just made a post in another thread about this. Although i was comparing how both Ni and Ne might interrelate in my head. I was wondering if people's dominant functions tended to develop their opposite as well, since that is what is used the most.

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/56703-post14.html
    Or perhaps the perceiving functions at least develop together? Since it is just another method of data acquisition, and a person is just flipping their perception in or out, but it is still somewhat the same "trait"?

    I could imagine that the person's level of extroversion is also a factor, in terms of trait development, especially when you get near the extremes.
    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Or perhaps the perceiving functions at least develop together? Since it is just another method of data acquisition, and a person is just flipping their perception in or out, but it is still somewhat the same "trait"?

    I could imagine that the person's level of extroversion is also a factor, in terms of trait development, especially when you get near the extremes.
    How would the level of extroversion affect it? For some reason i don't understand. Do you mean a more extroverted Ni dominant would develop Ne? As it stands, it means they more strongly develop their secondary function Fe or Te, right? I'm just not clear about it. I do know that for my weaker functions Ti and Se, there ain't no Te or Si to be found. But for the Ni and Fe, i do have some sense of Ne and Fi present in my thinking - just not as strong.
    Step into my metaphysical room of mirrors.
    Fear of reality creates myopic morality
    So I guess it means there is trouble until the robins come
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