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[NF] Can Two NFs Hold a Straight Conversation?

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I've noticed when talking to NF friends in real life that we can't keep our minds on one subject. If one of us tries to tell a story, we sidetrack constantly throughout telling it, and its telling is frequently paused then resumed.

This happens especially with my ENFP friend, not only in conversation, but in goals and plans. We'll constantly switch between things to do, and it ends up in us not getting anything done at all, hah.

This probably isn't just an NF thing, but has anyone had similar experiences?
 

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I have an ENFP friend. If we're both really interested in a paticular topic, we can keep talking about it for hours. If a relevant side story pops up, we'll tell it, but we're always able to go back to the main subject.

I have another ENFP friend with who it could go both ways. If we're talking about something serious, we can continue the conversation. If it's just a fun conversation, we jump all over the place.
 

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Who is interested in rehashing the same topic over and over again in the same conversation? Dull people, that's who. Part of how conversations work is that the subject naturally shifts over the course of the conversation. If the subject doesn't shift you are officially really boring.
 

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Oh me and another enfp can go totally crazy and I can end up really tired.

This works better if I become more thinker like-I naturally tend to do this. The stronger the feeler, the less I use feelings to interact??
 

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Sounds like typical Ne to me. xNTPs do it too, just usually more on informational topics and fields of interest / random trivia.
 

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I've never tried to have a straight conversation.... cause... it's not very fun.
 

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I've noticed when talking to NF friends in real life that we can't keep our minds on one subject. If one of us tries to tell a story, we sidetrack constantly throughout telling it, and its telling is frequently paused then resumed.

This happens especially with my ENFP friend, not only in conversation, but in goals and plans. We'll constantly switch between things to do, and it ends up in us not getting anything done at all, hah.

This probably isn't just an NF thing, but has anyone had similar experiences?

Yes fill, often. It's how N attempts to find connection... Ne dom naturally wanders all over the place because to Ne, they're all one big related topic. But for Ni dominant INFJ, problem stems from I think Ni on full throttle being too much for tert Ti. It's difficult to organize your thoughts and what you say in a systematical logical fashion because N by nature organize things by multiple relationship links... like a mind web. Sometimes it feels like I'm attempt to wangle all the connections down to a single straightish path... on the fly. Like an instantaneous decision on which of 3/4/5 etc route is the best for reaching where I want to go. Meanwhile Ni has already skip down two intersections. Then I realize I'm likely not making any sense and must loop back.
 

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LOL, somewhat. If it's an important enough topic, we'll keep coming back to it as we meander.
 

Koocoomoo

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My best friend is an INFP also,
we have regular convos, but we always get sidetracked on minor things we say that people usually don't pay attention to, and we totally lose track of what we were previously saying.
 

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I had to laugh at this. I'm INFJ and two of my closest friends are also INFJ, our conversations are always like that. We talk until our tongues bleed but it is constantly going off topic and we have to explain EVERYTHING with painstaking detail, hehehe.

I also have a close friend who is ESTP, and he gets what my friend calls "the ticking face" when I talk to him. He will be into what I say for awhile, but when I start going off on one of my long, descriptive tangents he starts glazing over and his chin starts going slowly down into his chest, like there's a clock ticking down inside his head telling him he can only take so much more before it explodes, lol. Eventually he starts looking at other things in the room and responding only in grunts, then I pretty much know it's my cue to say "Dude, am I killing you?", hehe.

With my NF friends, we can talk for hours at a time but always leave the conversation going "Damn, too bad we have to cut this off, there's so much MORE I wanted to talk about!".

It's sick. But cool! :D
 

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I find that a Ne on Ne conversation often starts in one place, diverges, then comes right back around to where it started and ties it all together. It ends up covering a topic very thoroughly as every little side thought is explored. There's pauses here & there of "what were we talking about?" and then it jumps right back on track.
 

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my bff is an NF and we're kind of all over the place conversation wise but totally get what the other is saying. i very much enjoy and look forward to our talks. if i go too long without speaking to her, it concerns me.
 

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I find I can have long conversations with other NF's on one topic because we explore so many avenues/facets of the topic that it doesn't get boring.
 

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my bf is an NF and we're kind of all over the place conversation wise but totally get what the other is saying. i very much enjoy and look forward to our talks. if i go too long without speaking to her, it concerns me.

bf = boyfriend; bff = best friend, right? :isnowunsure:
 

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Yep! I have a good conversation with a fellow N and it's like crack to me!! It's also like Spanish-effing-Fly to me in terms of attraction to a male. If he gives me good conversation, I'm like "Take your pants off NOW".

I probably shouldn't have shared that...
 

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Hey, I find that I have this sort of conversation when I talk with/to my INFJ friend. The thing is, we never forget the main topic and where we left off.

Our main conversation would likely be interrupted by how the light from a streetlamp seems sad, or how we've been obsessing about the ruins of an old train station for years now without knowing the other did the same thing. That sort of thing. It's fortunate that we never forget the main topic though. Maybe it's an INFJ thing, I really don't know.
 
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