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    Help me type someone pleeze....

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    *Young adult male
    *High school drop out
    *Has girlfriend(+1 year) and moved hundreds of miles from home to be with her(she's in college)
    *Brags that girlfriend's BF/roomie is trying to sleep with him(claimed to have moved out of gf's place to avoid cheating) BUT-
    *Attempts to physically cheat on GF right in her face


    *Extremely friendly/charming
    *Often seems to bubble over with joy(even has a little bounce to his walk)
    *Flirts with all the ladies(old, young, ugly, cute...)


    *Has developed a close relationship with my baby cousin(she seems very ENFP) and according to her, he has shared very private details of his life. That seemed surprising to me, because he seems to generally lack seriousness.
    *According to my little cuz, he had a bad childhood, expressed that he hates his mother, parents are divorced and drug users(has used coke with both parents before), and he has a little sister at home(the only reason he states he even talks to his mother is to talk to his sister) He told my cousin that he wants to get his sister out of his mother's house
    *He seems more outgoing than my cousin, and takes along to make rounds at parties

    *According to what my cousin said that he told her, he uses drugs frequently, and seemingly uses whatever he can get his hands on(has a coke preference). Apparently he sees some of this as problematic, because he turns to my cousin for moral support when he feels he used too much.

    *He has not tried to pressure her for sex, but he clearly wants some type of sexual relationship with her
    *They sit and talk for hours and hours about "everything" according to her
    *He is extremely sweet to me, and also has made an effort to get to know her mother(my sister).
    *He wants to know all about our family
    *He doesn't talk about the future of their relationship, but seems to assume that he will keep his gf(whose car he drives because he doesn't have his own) and also date my cousin
    *My baby cousin is very smart(going to college), so it seems he likes college-educated women even though he dropped out of HS
    *He has gone without a job for an extended period of time


    *At work, he is apparently very good with customers. Getting down on their level to speak to them, smiling a lot, being attentive, and trying to meet their needs
    *My cousin did state though that sometimes it seems he has a weak moral compass. For example, he worked at a restaurant for a time and dropped a spoon onto a dirty floor, and put it back into the serving dish citing that he didn't care because he didn't know the people and they didn't know he did it
    *He has said some blatantly inappropriate things to people from what I hear, always apologizing, but still...
    *He cracks a lot of jokes, and nothing seems to be off limits. My LC had to nearly break up a fight between this guy and another guy because this guy made a racial joke
    *He and my cousin sit around listening to music and discussing it together
    *He seems to dress well. Sometimes slightly peacocking with a flashy shirt. From what I've seen though, he dresses according to the trends, and accessorizes(hats, glasses, necklaces, sometimes diamond studs in his ears)
    *He's a good speaker, a bad speller, but sends my cousin cute notes to pass the time when they are at work
    *I'm confused between the F and T because frequently he seems to completely disregard the feelings of others as my cousin describes him, but he also seems incredibly sensitive to the her feelings, that of his sister, and other select people


    My cousin is 18, and she and this guy spend nearly all of their time together. He is extremely sweet to her, and has no problem telling her how he feels about her(thinks/dreams about her, is crazy about her, etc...) She considers ethics all the time, and he follows her lead if she points out something he is doing that seems to be insensitive. He seems to have a lot of respect for her and she him as well, and frankly the two of them work very well together and take cues from each other well too. Anyway, interested in knowing what type you guys think he is. Again, I'm pretty sure my cousin is an ENFP.

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    Is he an ENFP?
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    Well, the childhood thing messes up being as sure of the typing. Some of the behaviour could be an attempt to deal with other things that are bothering him as well as his insecurities. Also drug use has an effect on moral compass and on behaviour, which also makes it more difficult to type. Would you guess him for some kind of NF? I don't think he sounds very much like a T. And if he's got that much in common to talk for hours with your baby cousin who is ENFP, he doesn't sound like an SJ. His attitude about responsibility also doesn't say SJ. He sounds pretty extroverted. So, EXFX so far. Any thoughts on your part? Does he seem intuitive or sensorlike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidelia View Post
    Well, the childhood thing messes up being as sure of the typing. Some of the behaviour could be an attempt to deal with other things that are bothering him as well as his insecurities. Also drug use has an effect on moral compass and on behaviour, which also makes it more difficult to type. Would you guess him for some kind of NF? I don't think he sounds very much like a T. And if he's got that much in common to talk for hours with your baby cousin who is ENFP, he doesn't sound like an SJ. His attitude about responsibility also doesn't say SJ. He sounds pretty extroverted. So, EXFX so far. Any thoughts on your part? Does he seem intuitive or sensorlike?
    He is defintely not an SJ. I would also go with ENTP, some of it just sounds like some ENTP's I know, such as the whole putting the spoon back thing, as well as the "jokes that have gone too far for some people". I have a knack for doing that. But also, his ability to get down on people's level sounds very much like an ENFP I know.

    I think he is intuitive, if he is so open to your cousin. N's I find are more apt to be much more open to other N's. The statement "you know, I never tell people things, but you are different" is one I hear a lot.

    I would go with ENXP.

    EDIT: re-reading, he is "trendy" and "flashy" and sounds just like an ENFP I know. Just because one does not consider another's feelings does not make them a thinker. T's can be highly considerate. However, ENTP's tend to dress nicely, but not so flashy.

    He could be a misbalanced ENFP who is selfish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antimony View Post
    He is defintely not an SJ. I would also go with ENTP, some of it just sounds like some ENTP's I know, such as the whole putting the spoon back thing, as well as the "jokes that have gone too far for some people". I have a knack for doing that. But also, his ability to get down on people's level sounds very much like an ENFP I know.

    I think he is intuitive, if he is so open to your cousin. N's I find are more apt to be much more open to other N's. The statement "you know, I never tell people things, but you are different" is one I hear a lot.

    I would go with ENXP.

    EDIT: re-reading, he is "trendy" and "flashy" and sounds just like an ENFP I know. Just because one does not consider another's feelings does not make them a thinker. T's can be highly considerate. However, ENTP's tend to dress nicely, but not so flashy.

    He could be a misbalanced ENFP who is selfish.

    Yes, when I have seen him he has been occasionally flashy. Not so much as to call dramatic attention to himself, but enough that he is differentiated from the friends of his I've seen. Other times, he has simply dressed well put together with clothes that seem comfortable and up to date. I can see ENFP in that.

    What throws me about the ENFP is that it's my cousin who always seems to be "reminding" him of his actions that seem utterly thoughtless and insensitive. She does it in very gentle ways that annoy our family and make many(mostly SJs) think she's gone mad. Like, the race joke he apparently made. She made no excuses for it, but explained to him that some people thought it was really offensive(I'm sure he knew). He seemed apologetic that he offended, according to her, but I thought us NFers were more sensitive than that.

    He seems to have a thing for long term relationships...and cheating. I thought that was more SP.

    Also to note, the kid has the most childish laugh I have ever witnessed in a young adult male. Very expressive. He almost giggles, mouth wide open, hand to belly. It's hilarious.

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    Just as a quick clarification, my reason for suspecting he was not an NT was not to do with lack of regard for other's feelings. In some respects Ts are better than Fs in that sense, depending on the maturity levels of either. However, the capriciousness doesn't sound like thinker behaviour. I think he'd be more likely to tell the girlfriend it was over if he was NT, not for moral reasons necessarily, but to reduce the mess of the aftermath. I also do not think he'd be looking to the ENFP as a moral compass, as he would have his own reasoning for it if he was an NT and not need someone else's approval for or against. It also doesn't sound NTish to gush on and on to the ENFP about how great she is.

    My vote is ENFP (but would they really be attracted if they were exactly the same type? Maybe I guess...)

    Or else SP (perhaps for some time the long talks could be sustained with him being entertaining and risk taking, while he enjoyed her warmth and interest in him which ENFPs are great at doing and could see her being a nice moral compass). SPs would also state what they think quite bluntly without embarrassment. They could be flashy sometimes. Still I think the childhood is a wildcard and I don't know enough SPs well to be accurate, but maybe a ESXP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnFpFer View Post
    Yes, when I have seen him he has been occasionally flashy. Not so much as to call dramatic attention to himself, but enough that he is differentiated from the friends of his I've seen. Other times, he has simply dressed well put together with clothes that seem comfortable and up to date. I can see ENFP in that.

    What throws me about the ENFP is that it's my cousin who always seems to be "reminding" him of his actions that seem utterly thoughtless and insensitive. She does it in very gentle ways that annoy our family and make many(mostly SJs) think she's gone mad. Like, the race joke he apparently made. She made no excuses for it, but explained to him that some people thought it was really offensive(I'm sure he knew). He seemed apologetic that he offended, according to her, but I thought us NFers were more sensitive than that.

    He seems to have a thing for long term relationships...and cheating. I thought that was more SP.

    Also to note, the kid has the most childish laugh I have ever witnessed in a young adult male. Very expressive. He almost giggles, mouth wide open, hand to belly. It's hilarious.



    NF's are supposed to be pretty sensitive. I know an ESFP who cheated, but had a flair for long term. Then again, I still feel there is an ENFP thing. I was greatly attracted to an ENTP like myself, moreso than I have been to anyone.

    So, at least EXXP.


    Quote Originally Posted by fidelia View Post
    Just as a quick clarification, my reason for suspecting he was not an NT was not to do with lack of regard for other's feelings. In some respects Ts are better than Fs in that sense, depending on the maturity levels of either. However, the capriciousness doesn't sound like thinker behaviour. I think he'd be more likely to tell the girlfriend it was over if he was NT, not for moral reasons necessarily, but to reduce the mess of the aftermath. I also do not think he'd be looking to the ENFP as a moral compass, as he would have his own reasoning for it if he was an NT and not need someone else's approval for or against. It also doesn't sound NTish to gush on and on to the ENFP about how great she is.

    My vote is ENFP (but would they really be attracted if they were exactly the same type? Maybe I guess...)

    Or else SP (perhaps for some time the long talks could be sustained with him being entertaining and risk taking, while he enjoyed her warmth and interest in him which ENFPs are great at doing and could see her being a nice moral compass). SPs would also state what they think quite bluntly without embarrassment. They could be flashy sometimes. Still I think the childhood is a wildcard and I don't know enough SPs well to be accurate, but maybe a ESXP?

    Maybe. I still was going for ENFP. The relation to each other is very great.

    Yea, an NT would break that off. ESXP sounds plausible.
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    I think he sounds like an ESFP without question. I don't get ENFP at all.

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    I think he sounds too dysfunctional to type. The MBTI is designed as a personality measure for a normal population, but he is taking drugs and displaying some fairly problematic behaviors...too hard to tell.

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