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    Badoom~ Skyward's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by fidelia View Post
    I've noticed that there is quite a range of kinds of INFJs.

    Synarch had an interesting characterization of them (eg the delver, the crackpot, etc) in another thread.Others have also alluded to at least 3 different common enneagram types that are often INFJs.* I personally have found in online forums some INFJs that I really identify with and others that seem so far removed, I don't have much that I can relate to.

    If you had to describe any distinct varieties of INFJs that you know what would you call them/how would you characterize them?*

    Also, do you think that the types commonly attracted to INFJs are drawn to INFJs generally, or certain species of them, depending on type?* (eg ENTPs like one strain more while INTJs might like a different strain of them)
    My idea on it was publicized before his was! Read the 'You know youre an INFJ when...' thread. Hmph. (I really don't mind, I don't listen to NTs anyway )

    I think it really depends on the enneagram of the INFJ. The 'normal' Entypes for INFJs looks to be 4, 1, 2, and 9, maybe even 5. Depending on which of these is the most prevalent, could mean different distinct versions of INFJ.

    En4 INFJs would be either artsy or personable in some way. By personable, I mean can understand people more intuitively than the other Entypes since they understand their own inner self better. 4s also tend to need to express their individuality in some way, which leads to an artistic bent.

    En1s would be the type that constantly strive for better. They rearrange their surroundings to better fit what they've decided is the best way for it.

    En2s are the ones that strive to help the people they are close to. My father is likely one of these. Their Fe is attuned to the needs of people and, I think, they love to see the people they love develop and grow, even if there are rough patches and growing pains.

    En9s are probably the type that ends up with all the weirdos spilling their secrets to. They would be the casual ones that see people deeply but not penetratingly. They don't judge because they likely understand human nature enough to shrug off the kwirks people have.

    En5s, like me, probably either have a less sensitive Fe and thus rely on Ni more to understand things and people. They are more likely to be the INFJ scientists with Fe taking a support role in keeping their interested fired up on a subject they got hooked on. The other way this could go is the INFJ who uses their sensitivity to the human element to understand people and create accurate theories about human nature. These would likely be the scientists/psychologists of the INFJ type.

    A lot of the above is a combination of my understanding of the INFJ type and the descriptions found here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    ^I was just posting this; you beat me to it!

    Although I'm still working on those types...
    That post made a LOT of sense and basically follows the train of thought I had! I must read into this. I'm definitely an Idiosyncratic. Could you post the link?
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    I'm like....a lot of both of the idiosyncractic and psychologist ones....minus the moodiness/pedanticalness/self-righteousness, though.
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    I don't see myself fitting neatly into any of these categories, except maybe the E2 type that Skyward mentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanveane View Post
    LA Psychologist INFJ
    [Fe(i)-focused]
    This subtype of INFJ is serious, well-mannered, and diplomatic. Prefers serious conversation and rarely, if ever, jokes. Has a calm and passionless presence, and can come off as cold and reserved. Can be mistaken for ISFJ at first meeting. They are prudent in offering opinions, but when they do are very insightful. Is skilled in handling wide varieties of people and can be found giving one-on-one advice. Common occupations include teacher, librarian, psychologist, or social worker. Often religious and/or follows a system of morality. Abhors injustice, violence, and conflict, and sticks up for the underdog. May come off as pedantic or self-righteous. They are hardworking and responsible, and emanate great wisdom and life experience even when young. Seem down-to-earth, stable, and graceful. Some are interested in humanitarian issues and/or alternative lifestyles.

    Often of Enneagram type 9, with a possible wing type of 1
    Often attracted to introverts, especially INTxs.
    Yeeep, that's me. Minus the self-righteousness ... aaaand the rarely joking aspect. Nobody understands my humour
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    I wrote this once. What do you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    There seem to be three types of INFJs:

    Type 1, Fi-twisted: Ni+Fi+Fe. This is quite a demanding, explosive variant, often mistaken for an ESFJ or INFP at first glance. These people accept/create lots of negative Fi values which they proceed to try and impose on other people. It's much worse than dealing with an INFP, because their Fi seems to be much more negative, unwavering, and vehement in nature.
    Typical alignment: Lawful Good, Lawful Neutral (by their standards of law and good, anyway)

    Type 2, Normal: This is your run of the mill INFJ, Ni+Fe+Ti. They're fairly insightful about human nature, tactful, and social but not overly so. They have some interest in philosophy and science, but they're decidedly focused on self-improvement and helping other people to improve themselves. I'd like to be closer to this kind.
    Typical alignments: Neutral Good, True Neutral

    Type 3, Ti-twisted: Ni+Ti+Fe. This is an unusually analytical variant, often mistaken for an INTP or INTJ at first glance. These people are much more interested in philosophy and science than normal INFJs, to the point that it equals or eclipses their interest in people and self-improvement. This is often the INFJ who has started to lose faith in humanity and the value of emotion, trying to fill the void. This would probably be me.
    Typical alignments: True Neutral, Lawful Neutral

    I think type 2 INFJs are the best (and wish I were a type 2), but I definitely like and relate to other type 3 INFJs as well. I really don't like type 1 INFJs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Stars View Post
    I'm like....a lot of both of the idiosyncractic and psychologist ones....minus the moodiness/pedanticalness/self-righteousness, though.
    Me too but I lean far more towards the idiosyncratic version. Joking and dry humor is one of my main ways of overcoming initial shyness and meeting and talking to strangers and making them come out of their shells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    There seem to be three types of INFJs:

    Type 1, Fi-twisted: Ni+Fi+Fe. This is quite a demanding, explosive variant, often mistaken for an ESFJ or INFP at first glance. These people accept/create lots of negative Fi values which they proceed to try and impose on other people. It's much worse than dealing with an INFP, because their Fi seems to be much more negative, unwavering, and vehement in nature.
    Typical alignment: Lawful Good, Lawful Neutral (by their standards of law and good, anyway)
    I wouldn't say all Fi twisted variants have negative values, I would say they are the more values based of the INFJs.

    Type 2, Normal: This is your run of the mill INFJ, Ni+Fe+Ti. They're fairly insightful about human nature, tactful, and social but not overly so. They have some interest in philosophy and science, but they're decidedly focused on self-improvement and helping other people to improve themselves. I'd like to be closer to this kind.
    Typical alignments: Neutral Good, True Neutral
    Mhm

    Type 3, Ti-twisted: Ni+Ti+Fe. This is an unusually analytical variant, often mistaken for an INTP or INTJ at first glance. These people are much more interested in philosophy and science than normal INFJs, to the point that it equals or eclipses their interest in people and self-improvement. This is often the INFJ who has started to lose faith in humanity and the value of emotion, trying to fill the void. This would probably be me.
    Typical alignments: True Neutral, Lawful Neutral
    I would say that, unless they have a sufficiently stunted Fe, they would still want self improvement. Their self improvement goals would just shift away from the human element.

    I think type 2 INFJs are the best (and wish I were a type 2), but I definitely like and relate to other type 3 INFJs as well. I really don't like type 1 INFJs.
    My dad is likely a type 2. As his teenage son, though, he feels overbearing


    These ideas could easily work. The top and bottom one could be the more 'unhealthy' versions of INFJ, with their mis-developed functions, while the middle could include the slew of types of INFJs that could angle closer to the other two versions.
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    Idiosynratic. This is almost a perfect description of me.

    Type 2: Pretty close.

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    The first part of Idiosyncratic and latter part of the Psychologist type fit me very well. I also identify with Type 2 because my love of science has always focused on its applications for helping humanity, not to mention teaching the subject for a time.

    I am impressed that people have broken the INFJ type down and have come up with these ideas. Thanks for all your work, it is very interesting to me.
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    me:
    skyward entype 4
    and some of 9 and 5 but only 25% of each
    50% type 4 then, i guess. a 4951

    defines me best:
    artsy or personable in some way. understand their own inner self better. artistic bent.

    then i:
    strive to help the people they are close to. Fe is attuned to the needs of people and love to see the people they love develop and grow, even if there are rough patches and growing pains.

    out in public:
    ends up with all the weirdos spilling their secrets to.don't judge because they likely understand human nature enough to shrug off the kwirks people have.

    at school i guess too:
    more likely to be the INFJ scientists with Fe taking a support role in keeping their interest fired up on a subject they got hooked on. The other way this could go is the INFJ who uses their sensitivity to the human element to understand people and create accurate theories about human nature. These would likely be the scientists/psychologists of the INFJ type.

    i'm just learning how to solidify theories by actually setting up fake systems and test-running them then getting my social on and seeing if it works.

    and if it doesn't: i have to go hide back in my lab or my bed for a loooooong time (depending on degree of failure) before i try it again.

    this is all very recent in terms of my realizing it,
    i think i'm maturing this summer. i'm becoming increasingly social since my job requires it of me now that i'm a supervisor and not a cubicle sitter-inner.
    and also because of the general feeling of 'things changing' in the air. the smell has been growing more pungent every month.
    So you were born, and that is a good day.
    And someday you'll die and what a shame.
    But somewhere in the between, theres a life in which we all dream,
    And nothing and no one will ever take that away.

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