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[ENFJ] ENFJ's: Not Manipulative.

Synarch

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Yeah, seriously. People need to back up off of her.
:chillpill:

I just think it helps to remember that we are all friends here. Out of all the people in the world, we are united by our shared interest in typology and personality, which ultimately renders us all as keen observers of humanity and seekers of understanding.
 

jenocyde

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I just think it helps to remember that we are all friends here. Out of all the people in the world, we are united by our shared interest in typology and personality, which ultimately renders us all as keen observers of humanity and seekers of understanding.

Score one for diplomacy. We are witnessing Fe at it's finest - see it's not all that bad, right guys??? :smile:
 

jenocyde

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I don't know...after reading Synarch's post I felt pretty violated.

I wanted to scratch out the "friends" part, to be honest, but I figured I would let him have his chance to shine. Whatever. *shrug*
 

Synarch

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I wanted to scratch out the "friends" part, to be honest, but I figured I would let him have his chance to shine. Whatever. *shrug*

Seriously, though. I hate when people are not getting along because usually it's unnecessary. Even when I argue I usually like whoever I'm arguing with. If I didn't I would just ignore them.
 

JocktheMotie

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ThankyousiremayIhaveanother!

Seriously, though. I hate when people are not getting along because usually it's unnecessary. Even when I argue I usually like whoever I'm arguing with. If I didn't I would just ignore them.

See, my perspective is that I find it's unnecessary for everyone to get along, as long as vitriol is kept within a reasonable degree. The problem then comes interpretation of where vitriol exists, and now we're back to square one.
 

jenocyde

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Seriously, though. I hate when people are not getting along because usually it's unnecessary. Even when I argue I usually like whoever I'm arguing with. If I didn't I would just ignore them.

I hear ya and feel the same way. It's rare that I take this sort of banter personally, but I have to like you personally in order to banter with you. If not, I just don't engage communication. Why bother taking it to that level, right? :high five:
 

Synarch

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I hear ya and feel the same way. It's rare that I take this sort of banter personally, but I have to like you personally in order to banter with you. If not, I just don't engage communication. Why bother taking it to that level, right? :high five:

Well. I just figure that there are two types of people in this world. Those I'm gonna like and those I'm not. If we're not gonna like each other, what's the point in even pretending like you exist or are relevant?
 

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Everyone is manipulative. EJs are by definition focused on making decisions in/about the environment, so why wouldn't ENFJs be manipulative?
 

Synarch

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Everyone is manipulative. EJs are by definition focused on making decisions in/about the environment, so why wouldn't ENFJs be manipulative?

Every type is manipulative, but in wildly different ways.

ENTP's are insinuating and slippery manipulators.
INFJ's are guilt trippers.
ENFP's are drama threateners...

etc.
 

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^ yeah I didn't read the thread; I was just responding to the vaguery of the question.

Honestly, though, by normal social standards, it would seem like ENFJs are one of the most manipulative types (barring ENTP at least).
 

Synarch

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^ yeah I didn't read the thread; I was just responding to the vaguery of the question.

Honestly, though, by normal social standards, it would seem like ENFJs are one of the most manipulative types (barring ENTP at least).

I actually don't think ENTP's are good manipulators.

1. Too lazy.
2. Bad memory.
3. Too obvious.
4. Can't keep a straight face.
 

jenocyde

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I actually don't think ENTP's are good manipulators.

1. Too lazy.
2. Bad memory.
3. Too obvious.
4. Can't keep a straight face.

I'm good at manipulation but only if the plot takes place over the course of 6 hours or less. And if I never have to see that person again (the bad memory thing...)
 

Synarch

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I'm good at manipulation but only if the plot takes place over the course of 6 hours or less. And if I never have to see that person again (the bad memory thing...)

I made you say that.
 

Kalach

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Vive La Revolucion.


Now, what to do with this power...


*goads natives*
 
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