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    How?? Duuude, when I was a teen, boy was I one stubborn girl.

    Best thing my mama ever did was to send me to a 3rd world country.

    I saw reality for what it was, and it woke me up inside. Since then, I realize that there are more important things in life, and it was a 'Reality' check so-to-speak.

    Perhaps you can show the ENFP teen how lucky he/she is? Then they will slowly change/make improvements? What also helps is to be honest in a calm, constructive way.

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    great advice viv.
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
    -Jim Morrison

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    I was an awful teenager. My INFJ aunt was much better ta getting through to me than my ENFJ mother, however my mother did have a way of dealing with my consistent failure to keep my promises. She once said that clearly I didn't care enough about her to keep my promises to her and called up examples where I was promised something by someone who had failed to deliver. Linking her emotions to emotions I had had in the past really helped me be better about the follow through.

    Also reasons reasons reasons. Ne-Fi needs to be able to justify doing things before they can be done. I've been trying this with my INFP boyfriend ("Make sure you do the dishes by the time I get home today because if the pots and pans aren't clean I will be too tired to cook a late dinner by the time I am done washing them and we will have to eat pizza hut again.")
    Anger is also a feeling.

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    I was way peaceful as a teen. Actually a bit less so, now that I'm in my early twenties. 5 Js at home. A man can only take so much pettiness...for so long

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    Lobotomy. Or what Amargith said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post
    Lobotomy. <snip />
    Now now, before pulling out the psycho surgeries, we should consider less invasive alternatives such as the wide range of psychoactive drugs on the market.

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    Highly doubt your teen has developed Te, which would be great for organization and prioritizing. Enfps take awhile to get there...I'm 24, conscious of typological processes and it is still difficult to do. I've met 40+ year old ENFPs who never developed it.
    My suggestion is to find a way to exploit Fi, which is the driving engine.

    Could be difficult to do since you're an INFJ..

    At 15 I was a bit of a monster, I was very passionate and idealistic .. all social conventions had to be overthrown! Religion, culture, family, school, rules, curfews,... you name it. If there was a rule of any kind ..I was against it because it appeared "phony" to me and therefore none of those things were ever worth fully investing energy into... even if it resulted in putting me at an academic or social disadvantage.

    My value-oriented crusade used to mean the world to me...

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