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    today's musings on INFP 4's and 9's...



    INFP trait: self doubting, self-effacing


    type 4:
    manifests a distinct personal identity and value system to stand out from the herd. identifies with self.

    type 9: manifests pleasant, diplomatic, and agreeable traits to be accepted by the herd. identifies with group.


    INFP trait: emotionally sensitive

    type 4: hyper-identifies with own feelings. placates self by seeking solitude and immersion in their own world, maintaining focus mostly on own subjective experience, and expressing their feelings creatively. is prone to projecting own feelings/ideals onto others.

    type 9: disconnects with own feelings. placates self by seeking company and immersion in social world, becoming concerned with the people around them, and taking on their needs in place of own. is prone to absorbing the feelings/ideals of others into themself.

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    Under the emotionally sensitive, the type 9 almost sounds like the 4 -> 2 dissintigration pattern. Also I remember reading that many people can misidentify with 9 due to it's agreableness.

    Black Cat: 8 is also either four levels of integration or two levels of dissintigration from type 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runvardh View Post
    Black Cat: 8 is also either four levels of integration or two levels of dissintigration from type 4.
    Can you elaborate on these four levels? For the 8 and 9? I'm sure the others will be interested in the 9's too. Even the four. It's just good to have the information out there.
    () 9w8-3w4-7w6 tritype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runvardh View Post
    Under the emotionally sensitive, the type 9 almost sounds like the 4 -> 2 dissintigration pattern.
    i kind of make the distinction between the 2's and 9's agreeableness on the point that 9's are group oriented and kind of impersonally breezy, where 2's are more attracted to one-on-one interaction with a more emotionally-charged, personal bent.

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    I have nothing to add to this besides the fact that 4s are probably perceived as more eccentric or rebellious INFPs and 9s may fit the steretype more of the exceedingly meek INFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    Can you elaborate on these four levels? For the 8 and 9? I'm sure the others will be interested in the 9's too. Even the four. It's just good to have the information out there.
    Intigration and Dissintigration are basically directions of health or lack of health - intigrate good, dissintigrate bad. In the case of type for, the direction of Intigration goes 4 -> 1 -> 7 -> 5 -> 8; the direction of dissintigration is 4 -> 2 -> 8 -> 5 -> 7. In the case of type 9, Intigration is 9 -> 3 -> 6 -> 9 -> 3; and dissintigration is 9 -> 6 -> 3 -> 9 -> 6. Each level of Intigration relates to more healthier expressions of the type you get to, while dissintigration is the more stressed out negative forms of the type at that level. Past that I'm still learning myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by phthalocyanine View Post
    i kind of make the distinction between the 2's and 9's agreeableness on the point that 9's are group oriented and kind of impersonally breezy, where 2's are more attracted to one-on-one interaction with a more emotionally-charged, personal bent.
    Ok, I see where you're going with that then.
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    disintegration is a good record

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    Quote Originally Posted by phthalocyanine View Post
    disintegration is a good record
    Hmmm... Might need to expand on that a little. A good record of what is to come? or just to have an idea how someone may act when stressed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phthalocyanine View Post
    Ah, haven't heard it. I'll have to look into that. ^^;;
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