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    Senior Member mlittrell's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    I've ranted about this more than a few times because I think it's BS. I don't think ENFPs are more likely to cheat. I think that when they are young and immature, ENFPs are more likely to drop one relationship for something else, but that's not the same as cheating. If cheating goes against the principles of the ENFP (and I think it's against the principles of most people), they will not do it. This behavior is not an issue with a mature ENFP.

    I think there are other types that have a greater tendency to cheat, they just have fewer opportunities.
    agreed
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    The thing is that they aren't really like the people mentioned above, I think they're thinking of the ESFP, because ENFPs are like introverted extroverts.
    This is to allow us to work on hobbies and projects and such. Also, for me, a good chunk of the world is S so i tend to be awkard
    "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. "

    "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty."

    "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eng.daisy View Post
    ENFP`s are great people so sweet i like them =)
    good answer

    sorry for the multiple posts btw
    Last edited by mlittrell; 09-05-2008 at 07:22 AM.
    "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. "

    "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty."

    "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

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    As far as the introverted extrovert thing goes...Well, I've heard that before. But it doesn't apply to me. Not in the least- I'm SO scattered that my regular speech and driving habits make people laugh. It's difficult to take a person like me too seriously. I think people respect my opinions and so on and so forth, but no one is intimidated by me or anything. Wait, that didn't have to do with the post, but I'm not going to delete it because this is an ENFP thread and I want to be as legitimate as possible. But the bottom line is that I DON'T turn off, probably because I am forced to laugh at myself so frequently just because I do everything in such a weird order that it's kind of funny.

    But basically I have a lot in common with ESFP's, I like them a lot-I CANNOT fully connect with sensors, I have never been able to. Before I knew about typology, I just knew that there were a lot of people, more than 50%, that were just on different communication channels if that makes any sort of sense. It's like I felt they could never fully tune in to what I was saying or doing. Now I know these people are sensors. It's not that N is superior if that seemed arrogant,it is just that we're on different levels. Neither level is higher. Is that possible?? Yes, it is. The levels just need to be measured horizontally rather than vertically; think about it.

    BUT ESFP's! I cannot fully connect with them either but it doesn't matter because I don't need a true intellectual connection with people who just want to run around and do whatever, which is the ESFP way and is very fun! Truly the only S that I connect with, and it's only because our behavior is relatively similar. Somewhat.

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    argh! too much to read -.- . stupid time difference.

    i do love being an ENFP, and to be honest, if i could choose to be any MBTI type at all, i wouldn't change a thing.

    things i love being an ENFP:

    1. i know how to make the best out of a situation mentally. i'm not the type of person that will worry over every little thing and i can see the good in all things. well are the true idealists.

    2. i love being able to think about anything and never stop thinking. in a sports team, the players need to talk to each other to have good unity. i think it's kinda the same with the human mind. the more you think, the more you're connecting those neurons or whatever, the more you're exercising that muscle. sure there are negatives to this, but i'm sure that the positives outweigh it.

    3. we are intelligent and have good people skills. that's all you can really ask for in terms of personality right? we don't try to choose one from another and to be honest, why would you feel like you need to? both is good.

    4. people energize me and that gets me more energy in return. there are very few people i cannot connect with. i truly believe in the good of people. honestly, no one only has a bad side. it just takes time.

    i hate:

    1. over thinking relationships in the courting stage. just do it damnit :steam:.

    2. getting stressed over physical symptoms. out of all the types, ENFP's deal with physical imperfections the worse.

    3. not doing everything with time to spare. good god, i even missed an exam last semester because i couldn't be fucked checking the timetable . they let me sit it anyways though. see? social skills > organization skills. therefore, ENFP > not ENFP.

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    I haven't read all the posts, but I just wanted to say that as an INFP the following things really resonated with me. They definitely describe me as well. I'm no expert in function theory, but some of these things seem like Fi? Of course similarities would make since considering the top two functions are the same, albeit reversed.

    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
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    (actually, I have seen this in my female ENFP friend watching someone else talk to her... this other person was bitching/badmouthing about a good friend of ours (an ENTJ, good friend of the ENFP and I); my ENFP friend continued to assume an attitude of amicability to the person while replying with only choice statements that agree with some part of the discussion she can agree with, while posing no reply to the parts which directly offend her friendship with the ENTJ target of discussion, and showing no visible body language or statements that inform the person that she is in disagreement)
    Yes. I do this too. Once in a blue moon someone finds out I didn't "defend" them or whatever. They call me a flake; disloyal. However, in my point of view, I am just trying to avoid further conflict. While I am not exactly "defending" them by countering back or even disagreeing in any way, I try to provide excuses for my badmouthed friend, or tell them my friend's side of the story, so that they may form a better opinion of them if they wish. And of course, my friends are not the protagonists in all situations. The badmouther often makes many good points too, which I am usually able to agree with at least partly. And when they are often right, who am I to be repulsed? It's very easy to interpret careless mistakes/acts of insensitivity towards you negatively, and easy to take that negativity and go overboard...this is uncontrollable, and in some cases with certain people, inevitable. By taking the side of my friend just for the sake of expressing my loyalty in the face of something unchangeable by that behaviour is pointless. People are stupid. We do stupid things, and nobody is perfect (especially due to the fact that perfect is different to everyone). I could complain about anyone at all if I wanted to, pointing out this and that and those little things. There is little in this world that is not reasonable.
    This is all true for me. I don't lie to people, but I also really don't like offending people either, so if someone is saying something I don't agree with I will either not respond or only respond to the things that I do have something to agree about... it's amazing how often people seem oblivious to this. I'm always sure they'll notice! And I certainly agree with you niffer, there are just too many possibilities/points of view, and I hate making judgments about people anyway. It's really rare for me to actually be judgmental toward someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post

    Spontaneity: definitely.

    Non-conflict engaging/confrontational. I'll usually let people talk and seem neutral to what they are saying, since it's a much easier way to learn more than if I'm screaming my head off. I just take a mental step back and analyse instead of getting emotionally involved.

    From observational and anecdotal data found in my real life, I gather that a lot of ENFPs wear masks or second skin, so closely resembling who they really are that it's hard to tell it's there. But it is, and it's a bitch to shed, because it's like acting when you don't even know you're playing a role. I think this ties in with the whole sensitivity issue. I get hurt very easily, but I usually won't tell the offender, because that would seem a sign of weakness. I avoid confrontations and situations where I'll risk getting shouted at. It's much easier to bend around obstacles than removing them. Actually being myself, the absolutely, totally genuine and not-just-so-close-to-reality-that-you won't-know-the-difference me, is one of the hardest things I ever have to do. It leaves me vulnerable to attacks I can't just let bounce off the surface.
    Yes I also have the mask or second skin problem. It's horrible.

    Quote Originally Posted by targo View Post

    It's painfully raw and rips at your heart and you want to run and hide and and and...... you want to stay b/c it's hurts so bad yet feels so good to be able to trust someone on that level and vulnerable with someone on that level and just contect. It's not something I can do often it takes a lot out of me.

    As for the buffer yes I have friends who have noticed it and I am always shocked by the reality of it being there b/c I thought I took it down and it was in the wash.... yet no it's always there. Sometimes it's like a think black concrete wall and other times it's like mesh material certain molecules can pass through but others cannot.....

    I so much want to take it down but am so afraid too... in life I feel so lost and almost invisable... so often I feel like I am on the outside looking in....
    That is so accurate for me too targo, I know just how you feel.

    There's this part of me, the real part of me, that is just so hard to show to people. It feels like I have these nice little walls built up that allow me to function normally. What I really want though is to be my real self, it's just that this part of me is so sensitive, sort of like a snowflake. Intricate and fragile. There have been too many times when I've let down the wall and someone, not even knowing, touches the snowflake. To them of course it seems like nothing, but my poor little snowflake is seriously damaged!
    Too many instances like that make it really hard to let down the wall...
    But never letting it down not only means not being myself (painful in it's own way), but also means never having that exquisite connection when someone recognizes you and smiles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    I think part of the problem is that (as you are pointing out), ENFPs are afraid to let go. Couple that with the fact that they tend to be friendly with pretty much everyone and it is difficult for people to know if they genuinely like you or are just nice to everyone. (Although, I think this is also because they are so afraid of offending anyone).

    I've also noticed that they tend to talk to people that they are just getting to know like they are testing the waters. It's like they think before every sentence. It's entertaining to me, but who knows what other types think.
    Yep, this too is apt. At least for me, "testing the waters" is more trying to see how much of myself to show this person. I don't want to show them too much and then be hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by animenagai View Post
    2. getting stressed over physical symptoms. out of all the types, ENFP's deal with physical imperfections the worse.
    As a diabetic, I couldn't disagree more... where did you get that idea? I thought we were relentlessly positive with setbacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenix13 View Post
    As a diabetic, I couldn't disagree more... where did you get that idea? I thought we were relentlessly positive with setbacks.
    hmmm... i might be reading this wrong, but here: ENFP facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Linguist View Post
    1. I would rather not do that at the moment.

    2. I have to work a lot.

    3. I would appeal to the person's logic. Do you think it is FAIR for me to do that when I work like 14 hours a day???

    4. Let's wait and see.

    5. Change the subject.

    6. A really unhealthy way, that I do not do anymore, is to say yes, realize you are way over your head, and then try to think of a logical reason why you couldn't do it, which always used to backfire in my face because my Te is tertiary.

    7. Try to distract the person by acting like a crazy nut.

    8. Just leave the unironed wash in the corner for two months. Try to see if my husband will do it. He does not. So I guess I betta do it before it needs to be washed again.

    9. Ignore the subject.

    10. Final resort - say NO.
    Very nice. Although no. 3 isn't so much playing on their logic as playing on their emotions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animenagai View Post
    hmmm... i might be reading this wrong, but here: ENFP facts
    I believe that means they're the least likely to develop physical symptoms (get sick) from being stressed out.

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