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    Default The dark side of ENFPs

    Just out of curiosity, what are the "darker" characteristics of ENFPs supposed to be....or of NFs in general? Whether they be things that are considered flaws by you, or just darker but not necessarily negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into It View Post
    All that stuff's make-believe. Don't believe everything you hear.
    Ahh on the contrary. I WANT to get in touch with my "dark" side.

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    hmm...i think i can have a bit of ne inspired dark sense of humor at times...thinking certain absurdly not right things are funny. not sure if that qualifies...but it's all i got. otherwise we're perfectly light and lovely...imo.
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    One thing I've heard is that ENFP's often censor their views to not be contrarian or cause conflict. This is very much unlike my personality. Also, although I do worry about what others think of me, I consider it very wrong to sell myself out in any way or alter my personality to appease them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    hmm...i think i can have a bit of ne inspired dark sense of humor at times...thinking certain absurdly not right things are funny. not sure if that qualifies...but it's all i got. otherwise we're perfectly light and lovely...imo.
    Yeah....I definitely have a pretty dark sense of humor, and I've laughed at some pretty messed up and downright immoral stuff....in fact, often I find that the more offensive something is, the funnier it is likely to be (unless it REALLY offends me personally or is downright maliscious).

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    Depends on what side of the dark you mean.

    I've seen and heard NF's be extremely manipulative and self-absorbed, to the point of throwing tantrums to get their way, habitually cheating on SO's, and being really self-deceptive. As in hiding being this mask of feeling superior to others because they are so omniscient or 'so good at manipulating people' when really they are really afraid of people and unsure of themselves.

    Then there are ENFPs who go overboard trying to people please and sacrifice their Fi or lose a solid hold on values in order to appease everyone.

    So ENFPs can both be doormats or users depending on which dark side you mean.

    Another darkside is ENFPs lapsing into a peter pan syndrome or running on pure Ne/fear of deprivation. Classic dark side Enneagram 7 as well (which correlates with ENFP), go to excess, become extremely irresponsible, can't keep a plan or thought or relationship for more than a few moments, running from high to high.

    Another dark side of ENFP is getting overly zealous and reactive - not unlike an unhealthy INFP (though I think INFPs are worse in this way...lol, just sayin!) Digging in your heels just to be contrary and because you take it as a personal attack that someone is criticizing something you have said or done. The shadow ENFP in this case is entirely reactive and feeling under attack fromthe world.
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    ENFP's often censor their views to not be contrarian or cause conflict
    I sometimes do this. And, then I berate myself over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFrontier89 View Post
    One thing I've heard is that ENFP's often censor their views to not be contrarian or cause conflict.
    I never do that.

    But i'll take playing devil's advocate to the extreme, and people have called me contrarian or conflictual in the past because of that :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by CzeCze View Post
    Depends on what side of the dark you mean.

    I've seen and heard NF's be extremely manipulative and self-absorbed, to the point of throwing tantrums to get their way, habitually cheating on SO's, and being really self-deceptive. As in hiding being this mask of feeling superior to others because they are so omniscient or 'so good at manipulating people' when really they are really afraid of people and unsure of themselves.

    Then there are ENFPs who go overboard trying to people please and sacrifice their Fi or lose a solid hold on values in order to appease everyone.

    So ENFPs can both be doormats or users depending on which dark side you mean.

    Another darkside is ENFPs lapsing into a peter pan syndrome or running on pure Ne/fear of deprivation. Classic dark side Enneagram 7 as well (which correlates with ENFP), go to excess, become extremely irresponsible, can't keep a plan or thought or relationship for more than a few moments, running from high to high.

    Another dark side of ENFP is getting overly zealous and reactive - not unlike an unhealthy INFP (though I think INFPs are worse in this way...lol, just sayin!) Digging in your heels just to be contrary and because you take it as a personal attack that someone is criticizing something you have said or done. The shadow ENFP in this case is entirely reactive and feeling under attack fromthe world.
    very well said. it's just a lack of balance that can happen for any type. for enfps it looks more like a darkside bc it is often a. very surprising and b. very effective. socially they're almost always good at what they do, including fucking shit up. Ne and Fi balance provides a good foundation and helps keep some of the inferior Si flightiness/fidgetiness and Te masterplanning at bay (or at least used for good). Ne is great but needs some grounding, and Fi needs some uplift and some craftiness to make it all work out in the end (harmonious and fit together).

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