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    Quote Originally Posted by CzeCze View Post
    Depends on what side of the dark you mean.

    I've seen and heard NF's be extremely manipulative and self-absorbed, to the point of throwing tantrums to get their way, habitually cheating on SO's, and being really self-deceptive. As in hiding being this mask of feeling superior to others because they are so omniscient or 'so good at manipulating people' when really they are really afraid of people and unsure of themselves.

    Then there are ENFPs who go overboard trying to people please and sacrifice their Fi or lose a solid hold on values in order to appease everyone.

    So ENFPs can both be doormats or users depending on which dark side you mean.

    Another darkside is ENFPs lapsing into a peter pan syndrome or running on pure Ne/fear of deprivation. Classic dark side Enneagram 7 as well (which correlates with ENFP), go to excess, become extremely irresponsible, can't keep a plan or thought or relationship for more than a few moments, running from high to high.

    Another dark side of ENFP is getting overly zealous and reactive - not unlike an unhealthy INFP (though I think INFPs are worse in this way...lol, just sayin!) Digging in your heels just to be contrary and because you take it as a personal attack that someone is criticizing something you have said or done. The shadow ENFP in this case is entirely reactive and feeling under attack fromthe world.
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    I dunno what my dark side is exactly...

    But I can make people feel like laughing and crying at the same time...

    I think I would love to be a military drill sergeant. Like inspire people while they are in pain. I like that contrast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFrontier89 View Post
    One thing I've heard is that ENFP's often censor their views to not be contrarian or cause conflict. This is very much unlike my personality. Also, although I do worry about what others think of me, I consider it very wrong to sell myself out in any way or alter my personality to appease them.
    This is me. I hate the idea of having to be in conflict with others, but if it's a question of moral high ground, defending another person who needs help, or maintaining my sense of self, then I won't back down, even if it does result in a confrontation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    I never do that.

    ...people have called me contrarian or conflictual in the past because of that :P
    I've been called something along those lines, along with combative. Which it so unlike me in my normal, relaxed state. Sometimes confrontation is necessary, despite the fact I don't enjoy it, but people seem to think I like doing that sort of thing just because I'm usually in the middle of something. It's a misinterpretation of the situation. I hate conflict, but I can't ignore a situation if something's going wrong.

    As far as a dark side is concerned, Pink tells me that I turn into the scariest person she knows when I'm under so much stress I can't handle it anymore. I put on my ISTJ suit apparently, and turn into a flat, affective, steely person. I swear if someone dropped me into a jungle when I'm like that, I could probably liberate an entire village on my own. lol

    But it's a very black place, and I hate being there.

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    ENFPs be honest.

    What do you think about stealing ? (in any context)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    ENFPs be honest.

    What do you think about stealing ? (in any context)
    There is no answer that covers any context, sometimes it's understandable to steal, and at others it isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFrontier89 View Post
    Just out of curiosity, what are the "darker" characteristics of ENFPs supposed to be....or of NFs in general? Whether they be things that are considered flaws by you, or just darker but not necessarily negative.
    Non-evil darkness: Love of 19th and 20th century Russian artistic representations of angst, hopeless despair, empty souls, and the meaninglessness of existence.

    Hmmm... I made that very specific to myself. How about: exploration of the deeper, darker sides of the human experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    ENFPs be honest.

    What do you think about stealing ? (in any context)
    Quote Originally Posted by BerberElla View Post
    There is no answer that covers any context, sometimes it's understandable to steal, and at others it isn't.
    Yup. We aren't SJs... we don't do 10 commandment ethics. It's relative, subjective, and rarely consistent from ENFP to ENFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFrontier89 View Post
    One thing I've heard is that ENFP's often censor their views to not be contrarian or cause conflict. This is very much unlike my personality. Also, although I do worry about what others think of me, I consider it very wrong to sell myself out in any way or alter my personality to appease them.
    Oh Jayyysus! Whoever said that is mistaken. As you implied, our need for authenticity way overpowers our desire to maintain harmony.

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    dark side of ENFP is ISTJ? :P


    ... kidding.... I'm not sure, I know about my dark sides, wouldn't wanna make general conclusions - but maybe not paying enough attention to your feelings so they accumulate- when ENFP is younger and immature.

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