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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    When NF says " I have to sort my feeling out."

    What does that actually mean ?
    Likely, they're feeling some emotions and wish to better understand what's caused them. Let them do so; they can factor this new information into their decisions to make them more reasonable.

    But such a process might take time.

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    Along the same line, what does it mean when an NT says "I have to check with my feelings?" Wow. That's a foreign concept to me; in my world, feelings just "are." Seriously, can one of you NT's help me out w/ that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Idealist

    Play the game of Masquerade when they feel they have not been or
    cannot continue to be authentic, benevolent, and empathetic. Variants
    include:

    -- Mind Reader: claim that they know what others are really thinking,
    feeling and/or wanting. Project their own thoughts/desires on to
    others, often attributing negative motives, ie., that others are out
    to get them. May even contend that others are reading their minds.
    Take everything as personal when it has nothing to do with them.

    -- Martyr: sacrifice themselves for a higher cause or principle, or
    for the needs and wants of another. May voluntarily endure suffering
    or hardship to impress others of their goodness and purity.

    -- Grasshopper: keep hopping from one topic to another, to keep the
    conversation away from sensitive issues. Avoid talking about what
    really bothers them by pretending to be bothered by something else.

    -- Statue: Lose any degree of their motor and/or sensory functioning
    and may experience partial or full paralysis, blindness, and or
    deafness. This cannot be traced to any organic cause.

    -- Forgetful: completely forget whatever is unpleasant from their
    past
    or present -- develop amnesia of painful moments. Can also forget
    their identity and even take on a new one.

    -- Twitch: Demonstrate an unusal increase in motor activity that
    cannot be traced to an organic cause. May exhibit tics or spasms,
    verbal outburts, outpouring of repressed negative thoughts and
    feelings. Once started, cannot stop.
    Oh God, that fits me to a T.
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    hmm....I don't think I fit any of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Stars View Post
    I understand the NTs I've known in person quite well.
    From a logic standpoint, they beg to differ. ALmost always, you misconstrue them in a meaningful motivatin somehow. NF's not all people are alike. NF's we are not all fundamentally good.

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    LOL, ok it's ironic that logic can be used to deduct someone's point of view, but feelings can not, mort. Sorry, that's a no go. If you're going to tell us that we cannot possible know who you are by intuiting your feelings, then you cannot possibly know who they are by logically deducting conclusions. Or for that matter, do that with NFs..which happens plenty
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    Quote Originally Posted by mortabunt View Post
    From a logic standpoint, they beg to differ. ALmost always, you misconstrue them in a meaningful motivatin somehow. NF's not all people are alike. NF's we are not all fundamentally good.
    They have told me themselves that I understand them. I will also add that most, if not all, of my close NT friends who I know online have said the same to me as well. I'm pretty sure they'd know if I understand them or not. Surely they are not all lying to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    LOL, ok it's ironic that logic can be used to deduct someone's point of view, but feelings can not, mort. Sorry, that's a no go. If you're going to tell us that we cannot possible know who you are by intuiting your feelings, then you cannot possibly know who they are by logically deducting conclusions. Or for that matter, do that with NFs..which happens plenty
    Amy, people's emotions can be completely unpredictable. I call logic a more accurate way of predicting emotions because NF's have a tendancy to project their own ideas onto other people. I had my INFJ friend trying to project his idea that I did not hate a particuarly douchey ESTP onto me. He also tried to convince me that humans are basically good. NF's are basically good, but other types can be much less angelic. SP's will do anything for fun. SJ's will do anything for authority. NT's will do anything if it is reasonably justified. NF's do good because they want to help. It also hurts them to hurt others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mortabunt View Post
    Amy, people's emotions can be completely unpredictable. I call logic a more accurate way of predicting emotions because NF's have a tendancy to project their own ideas onto other people. I had my INFJ friend trying to project his idea that I did not hate a particuarly douchey ESTP onto me. He also tried to convince me that humans are basically good. NF's are basically good, but other types can be much less angelic. SP's will do anything for fun. SJ's will do anything for authority. NT's will do anything if it is reasonably justified. NF's do good because they want to help. It also hurts them to hurt others.
    Does it occur to you that you may 'feel' this way, but that doesn't mean it is actually true for those who actually like using F and are more proficient at it? As for having your 'logic' intuited, maybe you can do that to greater accuracy with other NTs, as we often can with feelings in other NFs. I've had more than once put a 'logic' on me that they felt had to be the way I reasoned as they didn't see another option. Well...lemme tell you that my particular brand of 'logic' often baffles most of the NTs I get across. They get it wrong too. Very much so. HOwever, if they're not too jaded to admit they were wrong, they'll take a closer look and give me more insight in that logic (fill in the gaps and correct the flaws as it were), then I ever could imagine. A feeler can do the same with emotions, from what I've seen and experienced.

    Your way works for you because you are good at employing logic. Hence you use it for everything..even for things it shouldn't be used for, such as intuiting feelings. But it works, to certain degree, and only in some cases. However, using actual F for intuiting feelings is going to yield way better and more profound insights than logic ever could, if used properly and done well.
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    The fact is that I have an INFJ friend who keeps on trying to project emotions on to me that I'm not feeling. He tried to make me think that I didn't hate a certain ESTP Rower, and that positive thinking helps. It doesn't; it just hurts more when a problem gets through your defences because you are unprepared for it.

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