[NF] Why NFs pity themselves so much ?

[sculpting]

Venting & relating . NFs feel alienated a lot, so relating to our kind gives us some strength. Often times, friends & family don't understand what we're saying (we're too abstract....we're too emotional...etc.).

Plus, we like to help people, and we're generally not the tough love sort, so we help through encouragement and understanding. What seems like wallowing to you is actually pretty constructive and promotes growth in NFs.

I agree. I need to vent or externally rant a little (ie curse loudly somedays) or just talk through feelings. I also-maybe cause I am a feeler-am not entirely uncomfortable sharing those feelings with others-so am more open. Another factor is that I often need to dissect them a bit to understand them-so am not feeling pity, just sharing and analyzing out loud.

I imagine that NFs and all types on here do the same. Is there something you would like to talk about Antisocial?

AS would like to talk about rocks! he loves them.

 

[jenocyde]

I think he just needs some of these:

Ass out Pelvis out, of course.

but(t), of course...

I'll take one too, please.

 

[Synarch]

but(t), of course...

I'll take one too, please.

They need to set these up in public places: FromKeetra - //////////////////////// ANONYMOUS HUGGING///////

 

[runvardh]

Ah, the way to tell the NTPs are in the thread... LOL

 

[Athenian200]

What I can't overlook is how many post here are written in the stile : I am depressed, do others like me, I suck at life, why people don't like me and stuff like that.

In NT forum there are similar posts but there is a smaller amount of them and I would dare to say that conversations are more constructive.

Here you just have a emofest of some sort and it is almost like you are making eachother depressed. (and enjoy it)


I am sorry but I really don't understand what you are trying to achive if you have a goal in the first place. Are you just venting ? Or you really need attention of others to talk to you about emotions you have at the moment?

I would wager to say you're mostly seeing xNFPs here. They're the ones who wallow in self-pity the most, but they're also the most vocal in the NF forums. NFJs seem to be drawn towards the common areas rather than the temperament areas, since we usually want more diversity of opinion.

I tend to save my pity for other people, because I know I'll manage somehow. I tend to worry more about how I'm going to stop good, interesting people from being turned into something they're not by the people around them.

I do sometimes express feelings because I feel the need for empathy and understanding of said emotions, but I generally make it clear that that's what I'm doing when that's the case.

 

[jenocyde]

They need to set these up in public places: FromKeetra - //////////////////////// ANONYMOUS HUGGING///////

HAHAAHAA!!!

We can start a franchise of other anonymous services...

 

[Synarch]

HAHAAHAA!!!

We can start a franchise of other anonymous services...

I really don't want to know. Do I?

 

[Tigerlily]

#1 Closer attention to your spelling will help your argument come across more successfully.

to answer the OP post, I don't do any of those things you speak of, but I've recently found out I am teetering on limbic so what do I know?

 

[Synarch]

I would wager to say you're mostly seeing xNFPs here. They're the ones who wallow in self-pity the most, but they're also the most vocal in the NF forums. NFJs seem to be drawn towards the common areas rather than the temperament areas, since we usually want more diversity of opinion.

I tend to save my pity for other people, because I know I'll manage somehow. I tend to worry more about how I'm going to stop good, interesting people from being turned into something they're not by the people around them.

I do sometimes express feelings because I feel the need for empathy and understanding of said emotions, but I generally make it clear that that's what I'm doing when that's the case.

The INFJ way:

The ENFP way:

The INFP way:

 

[Thalassa]

Athenian 200 said: "NFJs seem to be drawn towards the common areas rather than the temperament areas, since we usually want more diversity of opinion"

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with this. I have thus far stuck to the NF area because I'm new, but I have also lurked in other places. Also, I have a friend who is INFJ and she is less tolerant of political differences than I am as an INFP so I'm not sure that INFJs generally want more diversity of opinion than INFPs. In fact, INFPs are supposed to be less judgemental unless their core values are crossed, so...

 

[jenocyde]

Synarch, you slay me!!

 

[Lauren Ashley]

I certainly never wallow in self-pity and rarely share my deeper feelings online or otherwise. Not that I see anything wrong with discussing emotional problems with others and searching for an answer (some would say this is healthy behavior); it's just not my style. But INJs are pretty controlled characters in general. As you may know.

 

[Synarch]

I certainly never wallow in self-pity and rarely share my deeper feelings online or otherwise. Not that I see anything wrong with discussing emotional problems with others and searching for an answer (some would say this is healthy behavior), it's just not my style. But INJs are pretty controlled characters in general. As you may know.

You're just a tight ass.

 

[Lacey]

NFs pity themselves? Maybe some.

Self-pity, in my opinion, has a lot more to do with how you act rather than what you say and complain about (in real life or online).

I don't remember exactly what I've posted, and if I haven't already, I'll probably say things like, "I'm lonely", "I'm awkward", "humanity depresses me", blah blah blah whatever. I say these things in real life too, to my close friends.

BUT

I DO NOT let these things affect how I act. I vent and complain about it all the time, but I do my best to meet and talk to and get to know other people.

I wouldn't consider that pitying myself. I bitch and moan, but then I wake up the next day and start chipping away at my weaknesses again.

 

[Synarch]

Oh, the ENFJ way:

 

[Lauren Ashley]

You're just a tight ass.

Don't be jealous that my ass is tight and yours isn't.

 

[Synarch]

Don't be jealous that my ass is tight and yours isn't.

Have you been talking to Edgar again? He's just small. Poquito as we say in the southwest.

 

[Virtual ghost]

#1 Closer attention to your spelling will help your argument come across more successfully.

#2 I am curious at the process of feeling that made you feel compelled to inquire on this subject. By referring to an "emofest", a clearly pejorative phrase, one might be inclined to believe that you have an axe to grind. So, the real mystery here might be why a discussion of negative feelings makes you uncomfortable? Do you fear that signs of weakness in others are contagious and, as such, a threat to your own tenuous system of emotional control?

I have deliberatly choosen more antagonistic approach. Just to see will it trigger a hostile response.
So that I can ask: Why did it trigger a hostile reaction? Are you afaid that I am judging you ? In the case you are, why you are afraid of that and why did you even bother to reply? Were you offended because I am INTJ ?


Once you answer those question maybe you will realise better why you are so unhappy at times.




Another reason is because I trully don't understand why people here have a tendency towards depressive thinking/feeling. Which is becaus I am built differently then NFs.


Also when I read posts on this forum I get the impression that a number of people really enjoys in this kinds of things. Something like among the lines " it doesn't matter what feeling it is as long as deep feeling".
Also I aree with statement that NFP are more likely to behave this way.
I see it as a form of masochism. (you are free prove me wrong)


I am not saying that people do this all the time but at the moments it can look as if they really like to feel bad.



No, it does not make me feel uncomfortabe I just don't understand "the ritual". I am not sure that I would started this thread in the case that this kinds of conversations make me uncomfortable.

 

[Synarch]

I have deliberatly choosen more antagonistic approach. Just to see will it trigger a hostile response.
So that I can ask: Why did it trigger a hostile reaction? Are you afaid that I am judging you ? In the case you are, why you are afraid of that and why did you even bother to reply? Were you offended because I am INTJ ?


Once you answer those question maybe you will realise better why you are so unhappy at times.




Another reason is because I trully don't understand why people here have a tendency towards depressive thinking/feeling. Which is becaus I am built differently then NFs.


Also when I read posts on this forum I get the impression that a number of people really enjoys in this kinds of things. Something like among the lines " it doesn't matter what feeling it is as long as deep feeling".
Also I aree with statement that NFP are more likely to behave this way.
I see it as a form of masochism. (you are free prove me wrong)


I am not saying that people do this all the time but at the moments it can look as if they really like to feel bad.



No, it does not make me feel uncomfortabe I just don't understand "the ritual". I am not sure that I would started this thread in the case that this kinds of conversations make me uncomfortable.

Your first sentence made me giggle then I got bored and stopped reading.

 

[Lauren Ashley]

Have you been talking to Edgar again?

Yeah, he told me about last weekend and how he opened your asshole wider than the Grand Canyon. Good luck with that!