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    I think the INFJ/ENTP relationship being a flood or a desert is just an outworking of the ENTP attention span. I don't know about you guys, but I get intensely into the idea of something, then get bored quickly, then come back full force (maybe). And I know, cognitively, that people aren't ideas and need to be treated differently, but that's just how I interact with the world.

    I don't know how INTJness interacts with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmandahalf View Post
    I think the INFJ/ENTP relationship being a flood or a desert is just an outworking of the ENTP attention span. I don't know about you guys, but I get intensely into the idea of something, then get bored quickly, then come back full force (maybe). And I know, cognitively, that people aren't ideas and need to be treated differently, but that's just how I interact with the world.

    I don't know how INTJness interacts with this.
    An INFJ and I have shown interest in each other for several months at least..the natural progression is slow because of an unhappy relationship...but I know why we're compatible..I think she knows we are, although not sure if she knows why..

    The attraction is mutual. Although I will emote love and understanding to her and read 'desire' in her eyes looking at me. It's this shared base of foundation, yet it alternates across feelings and focus at differing times.

    I hope she doesn't think I don't want her if I don't immediately show it. It's just that I love her because I know her and know why. She might not know me that well. (*has patience, lots*)

    But that is the fun part...getting to know the other..then one can really show one's love when times get tough and understand, compassion, love, filling in to bridge across difficulties and make it really ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    You guys would make some interesting babies.
    Slow it down there big fellow! We're going to spend A LOT of time trying to make them and this will be the one time you'll find two ENTPs alright with total failure!

    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar7 View Post
    ...suggestion..maybe it's been less-considerate ones which have been the examples you witnessed...I mean, we are rare..so this might be.
    I think I would be fine with an older ENTP that has gotten control of the NeTi and is in touch with their Fe but I'm not going to play INFJ in the relationship you know. I think I would have a hard time feeling secure with an ENTP because I know what we're capable of and how much work I've had to put into growth and self awareness to be a man I'm proud of.

    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    I think someone should do ENTP / ENTP. Not it.
    I'll give it a shot, nothing to lose and it'll be one hell of a fun and interesting ride!

    Quote Originally Posted by aphrodite-gone-awry View Post
    haha. right! a bunch of little samocydes running around........

    :steam: :eek: :yim_phbbbbt:

    I love it! The name alone is such a sick contradiction it turns me on enough to wanna make some! Good thing I changed my name when I did!

    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Woah woah woah, I didn't sign up for any of that baby stuff... and plus, they would be jenvegas!!!
    Come on Baby now I'm sorta liking this idea the way Aphrodite painted such a pretty picture! It'll be like our own little killing army of sensor eating monsters! And both names are cool, any way you slice it they should be the monsters everybody hates and only we can control!

    Have the ENTPs taken over in here? Sorry I'll give myself a time out! And Jenocyde too, get your ass in time out!

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    I used to be kind of in the dark, I guess you might say, about ENTPs. But after talking to some of the ENTPs on here I've realized they're really wonderful people. I have not met any ENTP's in real life, at least, not obvious ones.

    ENTPs seem really compassionate and in touch with the feelings of others, especially for a thinking type. Is this true? I'm a really high feeling INFJ, I usually score in the 70's for feeling. That's the only issue, I'm afraid of spending too much time with "thinking" predominate types, because I'm really uncomfortable with theory and only thinking logically without taking feelings into account. I notice thinking types I've met like NTJ's and STJ's can make great friends but I have trouble getting close to them because we see too differently on too many things. Sorry if this offends anyone, I like every ENTP I've talked to. You guys are sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LotsOfHeart View Post
    I used to be kind of in the dark, I guess you might say, about ENTPs. But after talking to some of the ENTPs on here I've realized they're really wonderful people. I have not met any ENTP's in real life, at least, not obvious ones.

    ENTPs seem really compassionate and in touch with the feelings of others, especially for a thinking type. Is this true? I'm a really high feeling INFJ, I usually score in the 70's for feeling. That's the only issue, I'm afraid of spending too much time with "thinking" predominate types, because I'm really uncomfortable with theory and only thinking logically without taking feelings into account. I notice thinking types I've met like NTJ's and STJ's can make great friends but I have trouble getting close to them because we see too differently on too many things. Sorry if this offends anyone, I like every ENTP I've talked to. You guys are sweet.

    Thank you!


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    Quote Originally Posted by LotsOfHeart View Post
    I used to be kind of in the dark, I guess you might say, about ENTPs. But after talking to some of the ENTPs on here I've realized they're really wonderful people. I have not met any ENTP's in real life, at least, not obvious ones.

    ENTPs seem really compassionate and in touch with the feelings of others, especially for a thinking type. Is this true? I'm a really high feeling INFJ, I usually score in the 70's for feeling. That's the only issue, I'm afraid of spending too much time with "thinking" predominate types, because I'm really uncomfortable with theory and only thinking logically without taking feelings into account. I notice thinking types I've met like NTJ's and STJ's can make great friends but I have trouble getting close to them because we see too differently on too many things. Sorry if this offends anyone, I like every ENTP I've talked to. You guys are sweet.

    Yes. *not to speak for every ENTP

    I feel in touch with the sensibilities and feelings of others especially with the elderly..It's like my heart goes to the outside of my chest around them...and I somehow flood with compassion whence around old, old people..I guess it's a value..and I have always expressed it with them. I feel the most subtle, unseen things towards or about elderly people..they don't even have to let me know..it's like I can feel their struggles. I often ask if they would like this or that to assist with whatever I feel they need. And they usually, almost always, do ask for my help..It's that feeling like you've always known each other..truly.

    Also it creates a paradox inside my head...a choice..in no particular order, I get thoughts...I also have feelings. I blend them together. Sometimes this results in a mushy brain. So I rather choose my path and do it carefully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar7 View Post
    Yes. *not to speak for every ENTP

    I feel in touch with the sensibilities and feelings of others especially with the elderly..It's like my heart goes to the outside of my chest around them...and I somehow flood with compassion whence around old, old people..I guess it's a value..and I have always expressed it with them. I feel the most subtle, unseen things towards or about elderly people..they don't even have to let me know..it's like I can feel their struggles. I often ask if they would like this or that to assist with whatever I feel they need.

    Also it creates a paradox inside my head...a choice..in no particular order, I get thoughts...I also have feelings. I blend them together. Sometimes this results in a mushy brain. So I rather choose my path and do it carefully.
    +1

    Feel free to count me in that club, too. I'm forever connected to the elderly and to small children. I respect all of life's lessons learned in the former and am so excited about the knowledge to be learned in the latter.

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    ^^^ Ditto.


    I also have a tendency to get choked up when I see people making huge sacrifices for others. Or when I see someone struggling and struggling and struggling and finally making it through to the other side. Even thinking about it gives me a surge of emotion.


    Or when I see people putting aside their differences and working together to achieve a goal that's greater than themselves.



    And scars ... literal and metaphorical.

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    Damn right. With ENTPs, you see what you get, nothing more, nothing less.

    If an ENTP loves you, you'll sure as hell know it. But if an ENTP hates you, I'd hate to be you.

    One-up for ENTPs is about getting the facts straight and about calling someone out for being stupid/an asshole/wrong, and ENTPs will do that with anyone.

    AN ENTP will tear you a new asshole if you deserve it, but is also compassionate and willing to ask "why" in trying to figure out the world's social ills. ENTJs, on the other hand, are the "my-way-or-the-highway" type people.

    But if an ENTP is wrong and needs your forgivess, he'll also apologize. ENTPs, I would say, are like attack dogs. They can either be very loyal or they can bite you if they sense you deserve biting.

    But unlike dogs, ENTPs don't NEED that much one-on-one attention in relationships. Recognition is desired, but the whole getting too much attention just takes away from an ENTP's sense of independence.

    But damn! I love ENTPs. They're probably some of the most honest and loving (not to mention intelligent) people in the world.

    ENTJs, however, are just alpha male assholes who have a problem admitting they're wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlahBlahNounBlah View Post
    I don't one-up people just for the sake of doing it. If someone says something that's just flat-out wrong (especially if they say something about me that's flat-out wrong), I'll usually say so. But it's not because I'm trying to outdo them.

    I value balance, and I think diplomacy and openness to others' perspectives is the best way to achieve that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc790 View Post
    ... ENTPs, I would say, are like attack dogs. They can either be very loyal or they can bite you if they sense you deserve biting. ...
    I'm not aggressive enough to be described as an attack dog ... that sounds more ENTJ-ish to me.


    I'm not sure which animal I'd pick, but it would probably have less sharp teeth.

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