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    What are your thoughts on ENFP (Female) and ESTP (male) then?

    What should I look out for? Would the relationship be the same as if I was an INFP?

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    Ha! That's the spirit ShortNSweet! Throw caution to the wind; it's the only way to live!
    this is how i feel around estps. as if they're saying,

    stop paying attention to your feelings (and their inconclusive readings)! stop using Ni to foresee possibilities that show many probable disasters! let me be in charge and lead the way! or be more like me and take charge, even tho your natural way of interacting is behind-the-scenes or chart-the-course! don't pay so much attention to my personal values and motives! etc.

    estps play their own brand of game like all of us do. i don't see it being a fulfilling one for most inf types in the sense that it helps bring out their best, put them in touch with themselves, encourages growth and profound communication, etc. there are many things that can be gained from all relationships, and an inf type learning to go head-to-head with an estp type could be a great accomplishment. but, for the most part, i see infjs who are 1 afraid to take care of themselves and 2 appreciate the occasional Se overload of an estp and 3 see an opportunity for a s.o. with whom you have almost TOTAL privacy (bc they'll never understand the way your mind works or connect with your feelings/personal values).

    what they do is take charge. they may lead you on an unspeakable adventure, but they might just sell you a lemon of a used car. it depends on the situation, but hell- even if you get a hemingway, he's still gonna say "shut up, little rabbit" when he is tired of listening to you.

    If you like the person, try it.

    Forget about type.

    People need to stop using MBTI as some predictive measure of overall subjective compatibility. It's just ridiculous.
    it explains how people perceive and judge. how they process information/think. this drastically effects how they communicate, how they direct their attention, how they value (not what, but the form and function dictate much). it's a big fucking deal. what it doesn't mean is that needs and wants aren't highly adaptable; they can, of course, take on many forms and achieve many different chemical compounds that are at least somewhat stable. but communication (read: connection) is very important to nf types in relationships, which is why an sj or an sp type seems ludicrous for most of us.

    estps create an amazing sense of energy, they sell you the situation really really well. but i find the process very transparent, for the most part, like a too-practiced porn seduction and the same amount of hair product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENFP GAL View Post
    What are your thoughts on ENFP (Female) and ESTP (male) then?

    Sounds pretty dangerous for everyone involved.
    Do not try this at home, folks.

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    I've been in a relationship with an ESTP for about 15 months. Our relationship is so difficult. We have fought constantly since about the second month into it. Our fights get us nowhere. I just end up thinking he is an insensitive asshole who doesn't even care and he gets annoyed at my persistence to understand him and how I don't just let things go. We break up and get back together at least a few times per month and we only get back together because either he manipulates me or I won't let him go. He gets annoyed really easily, is abusive and unpredictable, and has days when hes mad at everything, including and especially me. It is such an unhealthy relationship but I'm sticking it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunni518 View Post
    It is such an unhealthy relationship but I'm sticking it out.
    If I may ask, why?

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    Because I love him and I can't help it. And the sex. Unfortunately, I am one who feels strongly that sex should be between a husband and wife but after a month of dating, I got drunk for the first time in my life and we had sex. Now I'm REALLY attached and can't break myself from him even if I try.

    Actually, any suggestions?

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    Is this the first person you had sex with?

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    Is he sticking around with you just for the sex?

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    I had the same^ problem with walking on my grandma while sitting on the pot. A viscous cycle that was.

    thinking of you

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    Is this the first person you had sex with?
    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    Is he sticking around with you just for the sex?
    We sound like nosey concerned nagging parents.

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