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    Quote Originally Posted by SpottingTrains View Post
    It isn't the idea of conquer or conquest that is overbearing it is the idea we hold in our head. Everything else done is merely a symptom of trying to reach this goal.
    Intriguing. Explain further?
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    Ideas are the currency that my mind runs on. It needs to be constantly refilled in order to function. Without this currency I grow tired, restless, and just get overall cranky.

    When an idea is inserted into my mind I go into overdrive mode and I will think of everything else as secondary until this new idea has seen life or I reevaluate it and find that it isn't what I thought it was going to be.

    This is why ENFJ's make amazing entrepreneurs when devoted an idea. Though the same drive also makes us unstable CEOs once the company becomes stable because of the lack of new ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    I'm not sure how the males control themselves. As a woman, I think I may be naturally tempered to rein myself in, but if I were a male ENFJ, I'd be hell on wheels. The inclination to conquer/conquest (not people in particular) would be so strong.
    Oh boy, you should have seen me in the gym today.

    (There's nothing devious; I don't think people understand that, I'd feel empty if whomever I was with sexually or otherwise was uncomfortable in any way; so there's not really any manipulation. I don't see how knowing how to make people happy and how to come to beneficial compromises strikes others as manipulation.)

    EDIT: Other ENFJs, watch out for how easily you can rationalize something away. I think this is when the stepping back objectively really helps. Maybe some deviousness, but the end goal is good: to make people happy; problem is the ends justify the means approach that is often used to the ENFJs personal value system. But maybe I've just been alone too long tonight!

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    Ethan Hawke, what an ENFJ! Gentle, abstract, people-focused.

    YouTube - Ethan Hawke Interview

    And I really see it in Samuel L. Jackson, the benevolent, adjusting-himself-cause-of-energy-but-trying-to-be-polite, turn-on-the-charm-when-I-feel-like-it side.

    YouTube - Samuel L Jackson interview for Resurrecting the Champ

    Ahhhh-why-am-I-here-this-is-awkward, but-I'm-going-to-try-to-be-charming side of ENFJ
    YouTube - Ben Affleck Interview

    I retract Clooney's ENFJ ness. This makes Clooney seem ENTJ; he seems to be oblivious to the mean, smug comments he's making to John. I don't know any ENFJs who are oblivious to people's feelings! Watch the Basketball part at ~3:20; John seems to be an uncomfortable ENFJ: notice how he makes comments about being polite. And how he reacts at 4:15: decisive, emotional, and trying to be polite at the same time.
    YouTube - Unscripted: John Krasinski & George Clooney

    Watch this if you think John's introverted:
    YouTube - John Krasinski - lawn dart story

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    Stephen Glass: I Lied For Esteem - CBS News

    ENFJ gone wrong!

    YouTube - Hayden Christensen in "Shattered Glass" - 7

    If you watch the movie, he gets the people in the office all on his side when it all comes down. Hitler-esque!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cronkle View Post
    Oh boy, you should have seen me in the gym today.
    hahah, how YOU doin'?

    (There's nothing devious; I don't think people understand that, I'd feel empty if whomever I was with sexually or otherwise was uncomfortable in any way; so there's not really any manipulation. I don't see how knowing how to make people happy and how to come to beneficial compromises strikes others as manipulation.)
    It's difficult for non-Fe users to understand that we're not manipulating them. People really do intrigue or fascinate me, and not because I think they're "hot" or something. If I REALLY like someone, I get very specific and only have eyes for them. I'm a hard sell in the first place, so if I get to the "riveted" stage, you've got my full attention and I'm not thinking about anyone else.

    Making people happy in a general sense, I think, has nothing to do with manipulation and everything to do with being sure everyone is comfortable and enjoying themselves.

    EDIT: Other ENFJs, watch out for how easily you can rationalize something away. I think this is when the stepping back objectively really helps. Maybe some deviousness, but the end goal is good: to make people happy; problem is the ends justify the means approach that is often used to the ENFJs personal value system. But maybe I've just been alone too long tonight!
    I'm glad I have other loving people around me to rein me in sometimes. I have a very cautious nature, but if I get the devil in me, it can be trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    hahah, how YOU doin'?



    It's difficult for non-Fe users to understand that we're not manipulating them. People really do intrigue or fascinate me, and not because I think they're "hot" or something. If I REALLY like someone, I get very specific and only have eyes for them. I'm a hard sell in the first place, so if I get to the "riveted" stage, you've got my full attention and I'm not thinking about anyone else.

    Making people happy in a general sense, I think, has nothing to do with manipulation and everything to do with being sure everyone is comfortable and enjoying themselves.



    I'm glad I have other loving people around me to rein me in sometimes. I have a very cautious nature, but if I get the devil in me, it can be trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpottingTrains View Post
    Ideas are the currency that my mind runs on. It needs to be constantly refilled in order to function. Without this currency I grow tired, restless, and just get overall cranky.

    When an idea is inserted into my mind I go into overdrive mode and I will think of everything else as secondary until this new idea has seen life or I reevaluate it and find that it isn't what I thought it was going to be.

    This is why ENFJ's make amazing entrepreneurs when devoted an idea. Though the same drive also makes us unstable CEOs once the company becomes stable because of the lack of new ideas.
    Ideas? In my case they are goals (may be you mean the same thing). I NEED goals, I cannot function without them, when ever I accomplish a goal I get static and happy about it but a few minutes later when I realize that I no longer have a "direction" I get almost depressed. In a matter of minutes you can see me going from happy to sad so I soon try to get me get me a new goal and strive to achieve it, whatever it might be. From what I say about myself I am very laid back and care free which I find kind of weird since pink sounds like she bounces off of walls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Third Rider View Post
    Ideas? In my case they are goals (may be you mean the same thing). I NEED goals, I cannot function without them, when ever I accomplish a goal I get static and happy about it but a few minutes later when I realize that I no longer have a "direction" I get almost depressed. In a matter of minutes you can see me going from happy to sad so I soon try to get me get me a new goal and strive to achieve it, whatever it might be. From what I say about myself I am very laid back and care free which I find kind of weird since pink sounds like she bounces off of walls.
    Yeah, I called it an idea just to leave it broad in scope. Goals would be one of its natural forms.

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