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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Stars View Post
    I'm quite logical, actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpottingTrains View Post
    I have a couple real life friends who are ENTJs and they are have been in relationships with IF's and they have all ended poorly. I know this is not really solid evidence or anything but each of them, when I talked to them separately, told me that the lack of logic when they talking about 'anything' drove them slowly insane. I can't see any relationship involving a ENTJ lasting that is not based on logical grounds.
    Well I dont think ENTJ mind if things are kept up in the air. Only, for a few things ENTJ need the grounding of logics and order, mainly at work.
    But for most things its inefficient to be bother about maintaining order in everything.

    Despite what everyone says I don't think ENTJ have a problem of letting go of control.

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    haha, well, I'm saying that mainly because of what other people have told me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chegra View Post
    Well I dont think ENTJ mind if things are kept up in the air. Only, for a few things ENTJ need the grounding of logics and order, mainly at work.
    But for most things its inefficient to be bother about maintaining order in everything.

    Despite what everyone says I don't think ENTJ have a problem of letting go of control.
    As long as things are in order or under control, you can often hear them say
    "Oh, well that's fine."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpottingTrains View Post
    I have a couple real life friends who are ENTJs and they are have been in relationships with IF's and they have all ended poorly. I know this is not really solid evidence or anything but each of them, when I talked to them separately, told me that the lack of logic when they talking about 'anything' drove them slowly insane. I can't see any relationship involving a ENTJ lasting that is not based on logical grounds.
    Are you able to elaborate on this at all? There might not even be anything to elaborate on, though! ha.

    I guess I don't view T's as being inherently logical (I know some T's who seem to lack it, actually!), and F's as being illogical, and I don't think that's really what T/F is.

    And, I'm an F who needs things to make sense, and I can have short patience or difficulty comprehending those who make decisions purely in the moment or based on mood alone, or without pondering longterm consequences/repercussions or the like. ;-) (but that specific element is more of a J/P distinction, I think, than a T/F one?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thursday View Post
    As long as things are in order or under control, you can often hear them say
    "Oh, well that's fine."
    I dont know, I chalk most things up to being trivial.

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    My longest-running friendship is with an ENTJ. We've known each other for almost 30 years. He's like my brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chegra View Post
    Well I dont think ENTJ mind if things are kept up in the air. Only, for a few things ENTJ need the grounding of logics and order, mainly at work.
    But for most things its inefficient to be bother about maintaining order in everything.

    Despite what everyone says I don't think ENTJ have a problem of letting go of control.
    I wasn't talking about control or order, just a logical basis for certain things in their life.

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    SpottingTrain: Is probably right. The Ni domination of INFJ would drive an ENTJ nuts. Just when the ENTJ thinks that the INFJ is pleased, have everything ordered etc, the INFJ will start launch tons of questions and with a passive-aggressive attitude that comes from "nowhere". The steamroller attitude would work for a while, but being Fe as a secondary function the INFJ could never measure up so the INFJ is trying to slow the ENTJ down (and the ENTJ would feel like the INFJ is backstabbing and have low EQ).

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    I don't really understand that...at least, for myself, anyways.
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