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    no. it's mainly dependent on whether i want to get in their pantiez or not.

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    It totally depends on what you're listening to.

    Is it someone giving instructions on repairing your broken engine valve? Or is it existentialist philosophy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BerberElla View Post
    Most people are either relating the conversation to situations in their past, or are already leaping ahead ignoring the rest of the issue with a plan ready to present at the end of the so called good listening question.
    Wow, I never thought about that. Now that you said that I can totally see how this is true in so many cases. In cases where I can relate its more of a conversation and not a problem. The strange thing is that for me I notice this more with Fi instead of Ti. If my Ti can relate I get into I can fix this mode or just get bored and ignore everything which I do if I cant relate also with Ti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    Yes, but I don't think intuition causes you to be a good listener. I think being a good listener causes you to be intuitive.
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    I think this is totally true
    Actually, it's far too pithy.

    I've had people try to listen well, they had the intent.
    They just happened to not be good cognitive listeners.
    They hear data. They don't know how to understand or process it.

    Therefore the info they got out of the conversation really sucked.
    If they had been more naturally intuitive, they could have gotten far more meaning out of what was said.

    But I also agree with this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    Yes. The more iNtuitive you are, the more likely you are to be daydreaming when a person tries to talk to you. :P
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    of course not - get over yourselves, people
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    I find that N makes some people bad listeners because they 'intuit' their own implications to your words and leap to conclusions rather than actually listening to you. Maybe an N wouldn't be bothered by this but I am (especially when they're usually wrong...).

    Although most people are bad listeners anyway. Ns and Ss are probably bad listeners in different ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    I find that N makes some people bad listeners because they 'intuit' their own implications to your words and leap to conclusions rather than actually listening to you. Maybe an N wouldn't be bothered by this but I am (especially when they're usually wrong...).

    Although most people are bad listeners anyway. Ns and Ss are probably bad listeners in different ways.
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    No, I don't really think they're related.

    From my limited data and experience, there are N's who are phenomenal listeners, and I really know they're focusing on and integrating what I'm saying, and N's who are lousy listeners and who I don't think pay attention to half of what I say. Same goes for S's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    I find that N makes some people bad listeners because they 'intuit' their own implications to your words and leap to conclusions rather than actually listening to you. Maybe an N wouldn't be bothered by this but I am (especially when they're usually wrong...).

    Although most people are bad listeners anyway. Ns and Ss are probably bad listeners in different ways.
    this.
    I know it is true because I've done it, too. The intuition from what I read someone as saying crowds out the actual words (with different meaning) that they utter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    Yes. The more iNtuitive you are, the more likely you are to be daydreaming when a person tries to talk to you. :P
    Yep.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    Yes, but I don't think intuition causes you to be a good listener. I think being a good listener causes you to be intuitive.
    Nope.

    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    I find that N makes some people bad listeners because they 'intuit' their own implications to your words and leap to conclusions rather than actually listening to you. Maybe an N wouldn't be bothered by this but I am (especially when they're usually wrong...).

    Although most people are bad listeners anyway. Ns and Ss are probably bad listeners in different ways.
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