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    I liked the excerpt too, especially because I like Thomas Aquinas, if that was the guy referred too.

    Though I will never be able to build the logical bridge between the real world and the radiance of an object to epiphany, I know that it could be build and I see the necessisity to do so. Because with far too much taken granted or labeled "logically-analysed", one can really loose track of the real world.
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    I've only skimmed it - is he talking about true objectivity and lifting the self-conscious veil?

    ENFPs have great clarity of situations -- or if not clarity, then scope. We are supposed to be very good at "seeing the field" in it's entirety, though of course our own ego and perspective will color it. But, for our purposes, strategic or not, we can "see the field".

    Does that make sense?

    'Course not, silly, we're talking (pseudo)philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CzeCze View Post
    I've only skimmed it - is he talking about true objectivity and lifting the self-conscious veil?

    ENFPs have great clarity of situations -- or if not clarity, then scope. We are supposed to be very good at "seeing the field" in it's entirety, though of course our own ego and perspective will color it. But, for our purposes, strategic or not, we can "see the field".

    Does that make sense?

    'Course not, silly, we're talking (pseudo)philosophy.
    I hear you loud and clear. We should create our philosophy club and kick all the NTs out. All thier silly logical rules

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    i like logic that makes sense according to our view....sign me up.
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
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    What is this logic of which you speak???
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    you know...ne based logic that no one else gets because it's not apparent to anyone else.
    or something...i made that up...i don't know.
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    Lol I was being sarcastic.
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