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    Quote Originally Posted by the state i am in View Post
    stephen king is the most distasteful example of infps who have made it- most of them end up od'ing young or going all salinger.
    Why so biased?
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    Quote Originally Posted by the state i am in View Post
    stephen king is the most distasteful example of infps who have made it- most of them end up od'ing young or going all salinger.

    also, give me your take on infj.

    finally, we take our feelings very seriously. our identities are predicated on our subjective values, feeling-tones, etc. what do you base your identity on, and why is identity such a less serious topic for you than it is for us?
    Actually I appreciated mysterio's post and viewpoint, and didn't see anything that offensive or off-base about it. I thought he did compose a serious response to the topic. (?)
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    the first comment about stephen king was just a joke.

    idealists (nf) take their values seriously. they view their lives as an endorsement for ideas, subjective values, feeling-tones, beliefs, dreams, etc. their entire self-image is wrapped up in these ideals, and it is difficult for them to disregard the strong responses that occur when those ideals feel threatened externally (and socially rejected). as if somehow the seriousness and commitment they have to those aspects/projections of themselves will be shown to have holes, leak, be vulnerable, discardable, worthless after all, etc.

    commitment sucks. conviction is difficult to achieve. information is abundant and always in flux.


    but what i was trying to get at is that i am still struggling to comprehend how others perceive their own identities without the same kind of adolescent wavering. how this total detachment works and where are the threads that hold an sp or an nt together as an integrated personality (altho it generally seems that nf and sj beat themselves up about "integrity" far more than the other types).

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    Wow. Way to be stereotypical there buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterio View Post
    “Self-esteem” is one of those bubble gum self help-speak terms which makes me vaguely nauseous, that I end up being forced to use for convenience. All I meant to say is that people here in general, not just INFPs, overreact to things they don’t like that other people post about their types, as if they’re afraid this has some immense power to make them true. And to other stuff. On the Bullying thread someone made a remark which was obviously meant to be ironic, that people freaked out over. I won’t deny that such drama makes for more compelling reading, but a part of me wants to shout, girls, lighten up! Stop skipping your meds and therapy sessions.

    You do have a point about INFPs. They’re probably the least compatible with reality of all the types and have to do the most adapting to get by in the world. Whenever they fail at adjusting to “normal” people’s preferences, they’re viewed as boneheads or flakes. The chosen ones, the small minority of Stephen Kings who end up in some creative niche that pays the bills and pretty much have it made, are the exceptions.
    We're pretty rare and it seems pretty hard to understand (although not on this board), and some of us have a dramatic streak. Some of us rarer types are probably going to identify much more strongly with our types, then you are with yours, simply because it is an explanation for some of our troubles out there.
    I agree with you that some take it too far....and when I posted my intial protest I was getting a bit annoyed that day, admittly because I get quite sick of being told I couldn't possibly think logically and I'm a scientist for god sake's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireyPheonix View Post
    because I get quite sick of being told I couldn't possibly think logically and I'm a scientist for god sake's.
    We can't logically reason ANYTHING. A certain person on here preaches that so he must be right. Our inferior thinking really just makes everything a blob of emotions, it's impossible to be logical.

    Heh. Joking, I had you there for a second didn't I? I lament the people who actually think the stereotypes are always true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    We can't logically reason ANYTHING. A certain person on here preaches that so he must be right. Our inferior thinking really just makes everything a blob of emotions, it's impossible to be logical.

    Heh. Joking, I had you there for a second didn't I? I lament the people who actually think the stereotypes are always true.
    Any logical reasoning expressed by an INFP is luck/they had help/they're not actually INFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    We can't logically reason ANYTHING. A certain person on here preaches that so he must be right. Our inferior thinking really just makes everything a blob of emotions, it's impossible to be logical.

    Heh. Joking, I had you there for a second didn't I? I lament the people who actually think the stereotypes are always true.
    you're being hyperbolic and dramatic. what i said was a rather meaningless generalization that should be brushed aside, bc it was a poorly conceived thought. get over it.

    i've said nothing of the sort that infps are totally and completely and absolutely and definitively unable to use thinking functions (which are not just logic, as linguistic is probably more of a relevant term for Ti than logic). however; you don't seem to use yours. you should take this time to consider that possibility.

    i have many infp friends, i am attracted to them more than any other type. i've met a lot of brilliant and talented infps who are perceptive, insightful, imaginative, and articulate. it's just PAINFULLY obvious when they aren't. again, you should consider this possibility.

    i struggle to see the purpose of identifying with a type on a messageboard based on an application of a generalized typology theory and then decrying every discussion of said theory as pertains to you as "stereotype." the nature of the messageboard is to refine individual understandings of the types with shared empirical experience, and the theorizing is an attempt to understand that conceptually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the state i am in View Post
    you're being hyperbolic and dramatic. what i said was a rather meaningless generalization that should be brushed aside, bc it was a poorly conceived thought. get over it.

    i've said nothing of the sort that infps are totally and completely and absolutely and definitively unable to use thinking functions (which are not just logic, as linguistic is probably more of a relevant term for Ti than logic). however; you don't seem to use yours. you should take this time to consider that possibility.
    psst... He was referring to someone else.

    i struggle to see the purpose of identifying with a type on a messageboard based on an application of a generalized typology theory and then decrying every discussion of said theory as pertains to you as "stereotype." the nature of the messageboard is to refine individual understandings of the types with shared empirical experience, and the theorizing is an attempt to understand that conceptually.
    Well see... the problem is, your wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    psst... He was referring to someone else.



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