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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    Why is important that someone cares about people?
    Just curious.


    I have also heard that that statistics 1:25 (4%)
    Yeah who is left to care about those people!!
    Answer - Rainbows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbows View Post
    This is a catch 22...they care when you can offer them something.
    i just can't believe that....you're saying this is true of nt's? or sociopaths?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erinavery View Post
    i just can't believe that....you're saying this is true of nt's? or sociopaths?
    Sociopaths in general. They need certain motivation to do things.
    (I don't wanna sound like the authority on this because I'm not) Either personal or personal gain, they have reasons for the stuff they do (sometimes its just because they can, like big kids really)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbows View Post
    Yeah who is left to care about those people!!
    Answer - Rainbows.
    What?
    Dude, so. Do you mean that if you help somebody out it hurts your feelings?

    That it makes you bleed and you don't get any self esteem\pleasure\feeling of fulfillment out of it ?

    If you want to go for the 'NTs are egoists' game. Your own logic just leads to one obvious statement, NFs would then be as if not more self centered.
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    explain it more eck...it's interesting and i don't quite understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    What?
    Dude, so. Do you mean that if you help somebody out it hurts your feelings?

    That it makes you bleed and you don't get any self esteem\pleasure\feeling of fulfillment out of it ?

    If you want to go for the 'NTs are egoists' game. Your own logic just leads to one obvious statement, NFs would then be as if not more self centered.
    that post was a joke but its hard to come out like that on the forum I guess.
    "what is the NTs are egoists" game?
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    And cmon, sociopath are people with an impaired brain. It's actually a sickness making these people different enough that they don't feel the need or understand 'playing by the society's moral rules' as it was made for regular brained people.

    A guy can be an asshole without being a sociopath, those are two different things.
    I don't believe you can describe a sociopath as a clear T or F. They might look T because they don't understand the social norm. But they also have a lesser ability to learn from mistakes, I wouldn't call it a T trait.

    As I said, It's a brain impairement, it's just like saying autists are ST or whatever, it's just a misuse of typing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    And cmon, sociopath are people with an impaired brain. It's actually a sickness making these people different enough that they don't feel the need or understand 'playing by the society's moral rules' as it was made for regular brained people.

    A guy can be an asshole without being a sociopath, those are two different things.
    I still dont get it. I dated the first two and said it was worth a shot with the other guy because mental illness shouldnt limit relationships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    And cmon, sociopath are people with an impaired brain. It's actually a sickness making these people different enough that they don't feel the need or understand 'playing by the society's moral rules' as it was made for regular brained people.

    A guy can be an asshole without being a sociopath, those are two different things.
    I don't believe you can describe a sociopath as a clear T or F. They might look T because they don't understand the social norm. But they also have a lesser ability to learn from mistakes, I wouldn't call it a T trait.

    As I said, It's a brain impairement, it's just like saying autists are ST or whatever, it's just a misuse of typing.

    Fair enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbows View Post
    "what is the NTs are egoists" game?
    It's confusing the fact we don't get our 'pleasure' from the same 'intellectual sources' with some good and bad polarization.

    Let's take health as an example:
    The extreme T approach of not directly helping people, accepting some will die because they cost too much to treat and and going for general measures could be and usually is more efficient even if less mediative than an extreme F mother theresa styled approach, which will on the other hand inspire other people to follow and look cooler on tv.

    The two approaches will have different results in terms of public relation\ideologies and so on but make just as much sense on the personal level. We just use different means to arrive at the same conception of 'right' based on how our brains reward our actions and create a positive feedback loop and behaviorally positive reinforcements.
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

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