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  • ENFP: Awesome at logic and problem solving

    26 40.63%
  • ENFP: Okay at logic and problem solving

    9 14.06%
  • ENFP: I suck at logic and problem solving

    3 4.69%
  • INFP: Awesome at logic and problem solving

    3 4.69%
  • INFP: Okay at logic and problem solving

    5 7.81%
  • INFP: I suck at logic and problem solving

    2 3.13%
  • ENFJ: Awesome at logic and problem solving

    1 1.56%
  • ENFJ: Okay at logic and problem solving

    1 1.56%
  • ENFJ: I suck at logic and problem solving

    2 3.13%
  • INFJ: Awesome at logic and problem solving

    5 7.81%
  • INFJ: Okay at logic and problem solving

    7 10.94%
  • INFJ: I suck at logic and problem solving

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    Quote Originally Posted by FantailedWall View Post
    Remember, we display extroverted intuition and thinking - the 'feeling' preference may become only blatantly apparent when you dig to the heart of things.
    Well, Jeez, there you go. The extraverted functions are N and T.

    *You* pay more attention to the feeling aspect, but what you display and how you deal with *them out there* is N and T.

    Finally something that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    Well, Jeez, there you go. The extraverted functions are N and T.

    *You* pay more attention to the feeling aspect, but what you display and how you deal with *them out there* is N and T.

    Finally something that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    Well, Jeez, there you go. The extraverted functions are N and T.

    *You* pay more attention to the feeling aspect, but what you display and how you deal with *them out there* is N and T.

    Finally something that makes sense.
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    the problem with the question is this, if an ENFP grows up in a household that is a logical household (a parent that is a T, for me, my dad is an INTJ) then they tend to handle logic quite well, they might not use it in decision making as much as they do feeling but if you throw them a logic question then they might actually do quite well in solving it. on the other hand, if they grow up in a not quite logical household, mostly surrounded with Fs, then logic may not come quite as easily. this same idea can be applied to thinkers in terms of handling emotion. and also with S/N in terms of handling N/S (though not as much).
    "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. "

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    ^^ i agree with you. must be that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlittrell View Post
    the problem with the question is this, if an ENFP grows up in a household that is a logical household (a parent that is a T, for me, my dad is an INTJ) then they tend to handle logic quite well, they might not use it in decision making as much as they do feeling but if you throw them a logic question then they might actually do quite well in solving it. on the other hand, if they grow up in a not quite logical household, mostly surrounded with Fs, then logic may not come quite as easily. this same idea can be applied to thinkers in terms of handling emotion. and also with S/N in terms of handling N/S (though not as much).
    I can actually somewhat agree with this. My mother is an extremely unbalanced ESFP. Self-esteem issues, body issues, inferiority complex, the works. Any subtle slight or, say if my girlfriend had ever made me a lunch for school or work when I was living at home, somehow meant to her that I had told my gf she was a terrible mother and didn't love her. She was and is an emotional headcase, and having been brought up in that environment I am MUCH more careful when treading on others' feelings than your average NT. Ironically, it has helped me a lot in my relationships, because I tend to ask myself what the emotional response of a person will be if I do said action, and is it worth it to inflict some kind of pain and deal with the stress of making someone upset.

    While I'll never understand why people feel the way they do if it doesn't make any sense, I'm at least a bit more aware of it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mlittrell View Post
    the problem with the question is this, if an ENFP grows up in a household that is a logical household (a parent that is a T, for me, my dad is an INTJ) then they tend to handle logic quite well, they might not use it in decision making as much as they do feeling but if you throw them a logic question then they might actually do quite well in solving it. on the other hand, if they grow up in a not quite logical household, mostly surrounded with Fs, then logic may not come quite as easily. this same idea can be applied to thinkers in terms of handling emotion. and also with S/N in terms of handling N/S (though not as much).


    Sorry, gotto disagree. In my case, having an extreme T parent made me lose all confidence in my logic abilities, as my attempts at it were never good enough. I just pretty much gave up on it, rebelled against everything that was supposedly logical and went on my gut/feelings, much to my parents dismay. I still don't trust myself when forced to be logical, and will have my work doublechecked to be sure. I'm sure that if you have nurturing NF-parents, you can still get enough 'T' taught in school, as the outside world, and therefore schools, focus on this anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlittrell View Post
    the problem with the question is this, if an ENFP grows up in a household that is a logical household (a parent that is a T, for me, my dad is an INTJ) then they tend to handle logic quite well, they might not use it in decision making as much as they do feeling but if you throw them a logic question then they might actually do quite well in solving it. on the other hand, if they grow up in a not quite logical household, mostly surrounded with Fs, then logic may not come quite as easily. this same idea can be applied to thinkers in terms of handling emotion. and also with S/N in terms of handling N/S (though not as much).
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    ...Ahem.
    Anyhow.
    I believe the theory to be sound - and one I've made similar observations in favour of. 'Nurture' having a good deal to say in the specifics of how you express what 'Nature' you are naturally imbued with.

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    that's really sweet jock.

    and that's interesting amargith....it seemed to apply to me because i have no t's in my family....just wasn't brought up around it so didn't feel as confident with expressing myself in that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Sorry, gotto disagree. In my case, having an extreme T parent made me lose all confidence in my logic abilities, as my attempts at it were never good enough. I just pretty much gave up on it, rebelled against everything that was supposedly logical and went on my gut/feelings, much to my parents dismay. I still don't trust myself when forced to be logical, and will have my work doublechecked to be sure. I'm sure that if you have nurturing NF-parents, you can still get enough 'T' taught in school, as the outside world, and therefore schools, focus on this anyways.

    ya then let me add this: a T parent with an F parent to balance it out. i could see how too much T would be disheartening for an ENFP.

    my mom is an INFJ so naturally i dont mind the extreme logic that emanates from my dad

    Anyhow.
    I believe the theory to be sound - and one I've made similar observations in favour of. 'Nurture' having a good deal to say in the specifics of how you express what 'Nature' you are naturally imbued with.
    well state, that is what i was originally trying to say
    "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. "

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