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    thanks metamorphysics I have thought about it a lot and actually when it comes to my ideals and what I believe in, I put way too much thought into it sometimes...and yes I reach these conclusions alone.

    The thing is we are kinda drifting here, I was basically looking for ideas on how to improve my logical thinking like when you have a mathematical type puzzle or a riddle or something you need to break up, not logic in and of itself. As a j, I am always working towards a goal, with a logical strategic plan to reach that goal, thats not what I was talking about.

    Thanks for all the help and suggestions though

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    I'm logical.

    I shouldn't tell you this, but there's a secret decoder ring. That's how we do it.


    *sigh*

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    Do the Google. There's books and everything.

    It's exactly what you're looking for, Dee.

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    wtf are rep points

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    Something to do with acupuncture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    wtf are rep points
    Basically they're comments people make about your posts. They can be either positive or negative. You make one by clicking on the scale at the bottom of your avatar and basic info.

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    So, I decided to check back at the starting point and see just how far ahead of the gun I had jumped and...

    Sudoku.

    Pattern recognition and, I guess, pattern synthesis.

    Like a mental Rubik's cube.

    Uhm... nope, I got nothing. I don't know how one would practice them other than by practicing them.


    Still, de Bono helped one guy off the 'shrooms, so there's that for the CoRT thinking programs.

    de Bono beats Drugs

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    Hi again dee,

    Practice the list I put down and you will help yourself gain muscle in the area you seek. And make sure to use your NF strengths and apply them in your unique situation.

    Be patient too - you are being too hard on yourself focussing on this perceived incapability.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dee View Post
    Don't let my bosses see this thread, but I am afraid that my logic and reasoning skills are very poor. I think thats is why I feel inferior to my collegues especially in the computer hi-tech world.
    First off, don't let yourself fall into the "grass is always greener" trap. Comparing yourself to others is not healthy.

    Secondly, I'd recommend reading The Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark by Carl Sagan.
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    Um, really it isn't that hard. And I hate suduko, and well basically anything with numbers.
    If worst comes to worst, say your answer, then work backwards.
    And working in an industry, where logic rules, pick a niche where you have a strong aptitude and become the master, that's what I've done, especially if it's obscure, but not marginalised, p.s. being irrational sometimes is an advantage, people tread lightly, think a genius is at work (works for me), also learn everything there is to know about chosen niche (know it inside out), no fact is too small. If you have the knowledge, no one questions the logic unless you come to ridiculous conclsions that are unworkable, and you cost them money, but your intuition should help you there. Knowledge is the key - no one questions your logic, if you are a talking encyclopaedia.
    Also use your own gifts well, that earns more respect than trying to be some one else.
    Currently submerged under an avalanche of books and paper work. I may come back up for air from time to time.
    Real life awaits and she is a demanding mistress.

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    take discrete mathematics

    its purely logic. and it is fun.
    "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. "

    "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty."

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