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    I think there is a difference in perception of men and females of the same type.

    Certain behaviours for example that would be normal in a man estj are too masculine in a female estj because society places certain expectations on gender.

    So maybe it's more your perception?
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    There really *is* a difference between males and females of type. Estrogen/testosterone spins the tune in remix form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Sigh.
    My Ti proclivities have not been satisfied by this.
    I utterly feel bewildered.
    Was anything clarified?

    What if we squeezed you into an ENFJ group hug? Alarming, yes. Fatal, not necessarily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    There really *is* a difference between males and females of type. Estrogen/testosterone spins the tune in remix form.
    Waaa! So what is the articulatable difference???
    I wanted to hear it from the mouth of ENFJs.
    Instead I get happy desert driving dialog that I don't understand!

    ... no *whimper* not the group hug. Please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Waaa! So what is the articulatable difference???
    I wanted to hear it from the mouth of ENFJs.
    Ok, let's see.

    George Clooney is a very good example. He's cavalier, cagey, independent, humorous and swanky. The girl version of this is less cavalier (though I do have a cavalier mode, similar to the boys, esp when dealing with my girlfriends) and are usually flashier in dress and manner. Same levels of bombast, though the boys play it a bit cooler. Less crying with the boys too, I suspect. The boys come off as ENTJs with a soft side at times.

    I had a very uncomfortable mutual experience with Taco once. We both bore witness to something VERY mortifying, and his reaction to it was like looking in a mirror.


    Instead I get happy desert driving dialog that I don't understand!
    LOL! It's an enigma wrapped in a conundrum shrouded in a mystery (sorry for butchering your quote, Mr. Churchill!).

    ... no *whimper* not the group hug. Please.
    You can scream through it if you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Waaa! So what is the articulatable difference???
    I wanted to hear it from the mouth of ENFJs.
    Instead I get happy desert driving dialog that I don't understand!

    ... no *whimper* not the group hug. Please.


    From my own personal experience and from what has been relayed here I would venture to say that male ENFJs are more repressed in an outward emotional capacity than females. I use the word repressed because it illustrates that though outwardly we may not show our feelings for all to see on the inside the are very much alive, maybe even more due to it being more contained.

    Now I'm not trying to say all male ENFJs are exactly like this but I'm sure they have each found the socially acceptable amount of emotion to portray given a certain situation.

    As for the other differences I think Pink pretty much nailed it, especially with this quote.

    The boys come off as ENTJs with a soft side at times
    All 3 of my closest friends are all ENTJs (Just figured this out), I wonder if this has any correlation.

    So yeah, I think in a group environment the differences between ENFJ females and males become less apparent. While in a one on one setting where emotions come into play much more the differences may be easier to spot.

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    I gather (or at least sense) that us male ENFJs have that usual outside, worldly push to be more extraverted and independent, like what Pink said.

    We're supposed to be cool, collected, always moving... but at the same time listening the whole way... waiting for the right time to interject our thoughtsthose deep things from the recesses behind our refined, outward sensibilities and appearances.

    We try to be all things for all, but in the end cannot fully. We must balance the idealistic with the realisticthe future with the here-and-now. We must try what cannot be fully done; we must love without the expectation of love in return.
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    I always thought that the biggest differences were, theoretically, one I more than likely would drool over and can get knocked up, the other I wouldn't and can't.

    Oh yeah, check this out...


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    I don't know if I know any ENFJ females. There's only one girl I suspect may be one, but I don't know her well enough yet. If she is one, then she is pretty, smart, warm/outgoing without being overwhelming, and has great unique style, yet she is so confident it seems men cower and hide from her.

    The ENFJ men usually aren't too good-looking , which must be natures way of checking their ego, because ENFJ charm + good looks seems like a recipe for a huge head on a man. Look at George Clooney...if he is an ENFJ and not an ENTJ, it shows you how arrogant a good looking one could become .

    The ENFJ guys I know definitely seem a bit caddish, but in a playful and good-natured way (if that makes sense). They also ultimately have huge hearts and don't want to harm anyone. All of them have this vision of finding the one girl for them, but in the meantime they surround themselves with female friends and flirt like mad. They all have a melancholy side, but counter it with their silly humor. They put on this charming, confident face but deep down have some big insecurities.
    They all can appreciate aesthetics, yet strangely cannot be bothered much with their own grooming & dress. They are all clearly Fe to me, and I'd never confuse them with an ENTJ, but it could be their environment and life circumstances which don't make them interested in putting on any macho front. However, I doubt any of them would see themselves as "emotional". I think they see themselves as sort of "progressive" men.
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