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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    I relate to ENFPs somewhat, but I think I keep something closer to an ENFJ inside. I think it's because F is still my first course of interaction or relating, either way. For example, I remember long ago I had this restaurant/dishwashing job in my teens.. the owner was a taskmaster and a jerk. I instantly resented his attitude, and the fact that he had a nice Porsche I lasted at the job for a whopping two hours..but for some reason, that wasn't enough, to just quit for myself. I convinced the entire kitchen to quit with me. Must've influenced 5 or 6 people.. I don't know. I thought we could all do better than that.
    Interesting. Are you a socionics ethical subtype? I'm wondering because, as an intuitive subtype, I veer much closer to having a bloodthirsty estj inside.

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    Yeah, definitely an ethical subtype. I'm not quite sure where I fit in that spectrum though... INFp, INFj, ISFp, or even ISFj. INFp kind of lines up, but I'm confused on the Beta quadra.

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    Confused about what?

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    Heh.. well, I've only seen one socionics board (16types) and Betas (if they are even Beta at all.. they could just be trolls trying too hard to be Beta) seem messed up. I don't like all of the rape jokes, gay jokes, and general lack of seriousness (or moral compass, if you will) at that place. As for what I might know as Beta in real life, it's hard to say. I tend to appreciate female duals more than male (if ESTp is, in fact, my dual), I'll say that much. Then again, maybe it's kind of the role of INFp/ENFj to be complete opposites and keep that stuff like the above in check. Some NFs on that board seem to try.

    Anyhow...Just an observation. I'm just saying it's hard to stomach that I may be part of the same quadra that makes rape jokes. It's embarassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rowingineden View Post
    You mean... like... sexually? They probably do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Heh.. well, I've only seen one socionics board (16types) and Betas (if they are even Beta at all.. they could just be trolls trying too hard to be Beta) seem messed up. I don't like all of the rape jokes, gay jokes, and general lack of seriousness (or moral compass, if you will) at that place. As for what I might know as Beta in real life, it's hard to say. I tend to appreciate female duals more than male (if ESTp is, in fact, my dual), I'll say that much. Then again, maybe it's kind of the role of INFp/ENFj to be complete opposites and keep that stuff like the above in check. Some NFs on that board seem to try.

    Anyhow...Just an observation. I'm just saying it's hard to stomach that I may be part of the same quadra that makes rape jokes. It's embarassing.
    I wouldn't say our quadra lacks a moral compass so much as the users who post on that subforum are mostly a bunch of pricks, AND I'd suggest that nts, though maybe less likely to brag than betas, under the surface they're actually following through on their thoughts, more being directly involved in taboo-breaking, letting another man fuck their wife for the fun of it, etc. Betas are just naturally more dramatic/less action.

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    For me, yes, definitely.

    I was a really shy ENFP as a child, in fact I might've been an INFP. I did spend a lot of my lunch times alone in my own world. As I became more extroverted I lost a lot of the creativity and childhood wonder I had as an INFP. I really miss a lot of that. If I could, I wish I could keep a lot of that stuff and still be extroverted. I dunno, you would think that's what an ENFP is, but somehow, it's like your fantasy world is stronger when you're an I.

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    no, an INFP keeps an INFP locked inside, and an ENFP makes it clear that they are.
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    Honestly, no, I don't.

    If they did, I'd get along with ENFPs much better than I do.

    But of all the ENFPs I've known, very few have been able to connect with me (most make me feel very isolated socially, instead of making me feel connected with them), and about half of them have even been able to go so far as make me feel that ENFP are INFP without the sensitivity

    I think that there's common ground, definitely.

    The difference, though, is that where an INFP is a completely inwards-growing creature, an ENFP grows outward. So the "INFP" that the ENFP have mentioned really is just the xNFP common ground that the two types share.

    ENFPs "inside" lack the complexity that an INFP has. ENFP are filled with the gooey xNFP material, but the material is much more dense inside INFP, and at the very center of it is a super-hard core.

    It's like gas planets and terrestrial planets.

    You guys have the massive personalities that draw people towards you, and it's an enviable trait. I just think it's a bit over-dramatic to say that what's inside of you is the same processes that we terrestrial planets are made of:

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    At the end of the day, you guys are still 10x our size and can kick our asses. So what's the problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tkae. View Post
    At the end of the day, you guys are still 10x our size and can kick our asses. So what's the problem?
    I think function strength is, to a degree, independent of function order really. I've met INFPs and talked with them, and my Fi isn't scared of their Fi. But yeah, in general INFPs will have a more dense inner world I guess.

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