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    This caught my eye and I dropped in to drag something over from the bitchin' thread.

    Stop yer damn generalizing, dammit.

    I'm watching you watching me. . .
    "No ray of sunshine is ever lost, but the green which it awakes into existence needs time to sprout, and it is not always granted to the sower to see the harvest. All work that is worth anything is done in faith." - Albert Schweitzer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    This caught my eye and I dropped in to drag something over from the bitchin' thread.

    Stop yer damn generalizing, dammit.

    I'm watching you watching me. . .
    Well watch your back, Anja.

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    Is that a threat? If it is, I ain't got time for threats.
    "No ray of sunshine is ever lost, but the green which it awakes into existence needs time to sprout, and it is not always granted to the sower to see the harvest. All work that is worth anything is done in faith." - Albert Schweitzer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    Is that a threat? If it is, I ain't got time for threats.
    Oh I'll fight a INFP, I don't care.

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    Why NFs care about others peoples feelings so much?

    From my own personal viewpoint I think it's just one of those attributes in the Feeling function that just makes NF's "in-tune" with the other persons feelings, as we take things through our intuition and feeling, we sense this more? I don't think it's a better or a worse thing than Thinking, it's just how it is for NF's. The difference (I guess) with SF's is that they are not "in-tune" with the invisible environment as much and so the feeling might be more "concrete" in a way.

    Personally, I care simply cause I can't be without caring. If I feel what others are feeling, how could I ignore it? I couldn't.

    Do you think that all people are equally soft at core?

    I actually think all human beings are soft at core, but how deep the core is, that's a whole another thing. I don't believe in good or bad, but I do believe in selfeshness, manipulation and deception; all come down to motives. Therefore I think it's not valid to say I'd be easily mislead or just manipulated, though I might seem this way to new acquintances and outside world in general.



    Also NFs say that they can feel other peoples feeling as their own.
    I am interested in which way does this really efect you.


    Torns me apart internally. I'm deeply affected by others suffering and just want to make it better.

    Do you give empathy/simpathy to others(when they need it) in a way that you are aware of it or in a more spontaneous way?
    This is probably part where J/P will play a role.


    I rarely lose my "composure" in showing my real, deep feelings, but as they exist, I usually choose a "safer" route in exposing them, so when I e.g. feel extremely emphathetic (as in feel the other persons feelings) I might actually show it to him/her as sympathy , as oppose to the "genuine empathy" that I am feeling. I am controlled in my sympathizing manner.

    I've noticed that when I'm listening to someone tell me something sad, my body language and face especially reflect the inner empathy I have within, but the unability to be "natural" in actually helping them out bothers me. I could never "cry with somebody", I can't sympathize on an emotional level, even if I wanted to show them it. Although I feel like I'm not a good listener, many have said that I am, and I know people easily confide to me, even if I didn't have anything to offer them (enough).


    Also it looks to me that one of the greatest fears of NFs is that they will be in bad mood so that they will not notice that the person who they love is suffering and it needs their help and care.
    Is this true?


    I don't know about "greatest" fear but I always feel pretty bad about myself for throwing my problems into smbd elses lap.


    I think that probably all of this works for SFs also and I wouldn't mind to get their opinion on this as well.


    My sister is an ISFJ and I've noticed she's extremely emotional but... just different in handling this information. She's more practical I guess.

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    My curtains are tightly closed. Nobody is gonna be watching me. I also won't answer front door or telephone so don't even try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    My curtains are tightly closed. Nobody is gonna be watching me. I also won't answer front door or telephone so don't even try it.
    I know the story known as - "Introversion clouds all"

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    My curtains are tightly closed. Nobody is gonna be watching me. I also won't answer front door or telephone so don't even try it.
    heart, I thought you were one of the good INFPs, but now you're not safe either..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    Why NFs care about others peoples feelings so much?

    I like Evan's evolutionary explanation about that
    To me it looks like that NFs can care so much about other peoples feelings that this skill can block their ability to operate normally during the day.
    Is this because you are afraid of creating enemies or when you hurt someone, you hate yourself for the rest of the day.
    I know it is both but I am interested in ratio.

    Do you think that all people are equally soft at core?
    Operate normally? To me successfully navigating the social environment (again shamelessly quoting Evan's post, couldn't have said it better myself), is a big part of what makes my day.

    It can happen that NFs(usually ENFPs) will be so friendly that he/she will say something awkward or hurtful (by their standards) and they will apologize over and over again and in the end they will feel bad about it.
    Why so defensive attitude?
    Once(if) they get to know you better they'll stop doing that. Or not, if you're a difficult person. j/k

    When it comes to talking with me they can sometimes end up somewhat disturbed because they realise that they didn't even scratch the surface.
    What can make them even more uncomfortable. (I presume)
    That's not disturbing to me at least, that's relieving. I don't count on everyone being touchy-feely. I'm normally okay with that.
    Maybe that's because I live surrounded by some strong Ts.

    Do you give empathy/simpathy to others(when they need it) in a way that you are aware of it or in a more spontaneous way?
    This is probably part where J/P will play a role.
    To do something to help the other person to feel better is definitely my first impulse. What I will actually do depends on the situation.

    Also it looks to me that one of the greatest fears of NFs is that they will be in bad mood so that they will not notice that the person who they love is suffering and it needs their help and care.
    Is this true?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    heart, I thought you were one of the good INFPs, but now you're not safe either..
    Anybody peeking in my curtains is going to get a squirt of water in their eye...you've been warned!

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