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    Quote Originally Posted by markjENTJ View Post
    ok i know that infjs have good intentions. and that they will hardly do anythin what they believe to be wrong. but to get what they want(sumthin good maybe) i have noticed that they are capable of manipulating people, in a quiet and forceful way, which never hurts any1.

    But thats not the point i am after. for good intentions or bad, manipulation is manipulation and i have noticed that Infjs are quite manipulative.

    what say you?
    LOLLLLLL.

    Good question. Define manipulative??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByMySword View Post
    Sorry if I offended you, but you gave the first insult.
    So, would I be correct in thinking that you believe one wrong turn deserves another?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Stars View Post
    So, would I be correct in thinking that you believe one wrong turn deserves another?
    Not always, but in this case, I felt it was warranted.

    As an INFJ, you should know how vengeful we are and how we value "poetic justice".

    I didn't ask for that insult. She gave it freely and publicly, insulting my values concerning the matter.

    She received a just response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Stars View Post
    So, would I be correct in thinking that you believe one wrong turn deserves another?
    I like your thinking.
    "The life of the individual has meaning only insofar as it aids in making the life of every living thing nobler and more beautiful."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalMethod View Post
    Father is ENTP.
    Mother is INFJ.

    From my view.

    INFJ does it more out of higher-moral code sort of thing. "I know better than you."
    ENTP does it more out of the subconscious. "This is what I want and I will get it."
    Another ENTP / INFJ match up.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Another ENTP / INFJ match up.
    Oh did I mention they are on the verge of divorce?
    "The life of the individual has meaning only insofar as it aids in making the life of every living thing nobler and more beautiful."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalMethod View Post
    Oh did I mention they are on the verge of divorce?
    Aw. Why?
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanveane View Post
    LOLOL. I think they call that poetic justice. Wow, so INFJ-INFJ relationship can be irredeemably bad?
    Now that I can finally reply to this:

    Yeah, I'll never date someone of my same type again. We're so alike, its awesome for awhile.

    The INFJ I was with I honestly loved. But she was a very unhealthy and unstable INFJ. She didn't know what she wanted. She was fine with the day in day out routine.

    To a point, I'm the same way. But I realized I wanted somone more adventurous I could get out and do things with. I'm restless, damnit.

    I had to end it. That was the hard part.

    But one of the main reasons is because she was very unstable and very needy. I need a partner, not an infant.

    Let me put it this way. Anyone seen Fatal Attraction?

    This chick was Glenn Close all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByMySword View Post
    Not always, but in this case, I felt it was warranted.

    As an INFJ, you should know how vengeful we are and how we value "poetic justice".

    I didn't ask for that insult. She gave it freely and publicly, insulting my values concerning the matter.

    She received a just response.
    "Poetic justice" will never get you anywhere; I despise the idea, as it only ever seems like the correct solution in the heat of the moment when you are not thinking about the matter from an objective point of view. In personal relations, it only makes things worse, especially if the other person is very sensitive; if not stopped early on, it would easily spiral out of control, with both people getting more hurt (though more so the one who is not taking the moral high ground). It's not that hard to explain how what she said was wrong and how it made you feel while not rashly lashing back--which makes you just as much in the wrong as the other person, if not more.

    Justice without mercy is too cold. Mercy without justice ignores the need for correction. There has to be a balance. If things like this cannot be handled calmly, that balance will never be achieved, preventing any progress from being made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Another ENTP / INFJ match up.
    "...
    In good and in bad.
    In sickness and in health.
    ......."

    This won't end well.

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