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    Persona.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    I can be impatient and still want to hear what you want to say. More often than not I just want people to get to the point so we can keep ratcheting up. I find I can be pretty abrupt in almost every situation. How did you find me in person? I distinctly remember stepping on your toes, conversationally.
    Hmm. Well I think you definitely had a bigger presence in the conversation than I did. I didn't feel steam-rolled at any point though.

    Actually, after I met you in person, I began to see how much of the ENTP games you guys play are just that: games. I just tend to take them too seriously.

    You remember stepping on my toes? I can't remember anything specific - do you? You don't just mean a difference of opinion, do you?

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    I just think I was excited and talking too much. It was good to meet you.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    I just think I was excited and talking too much. It was good to meet you.
    I usually take the back seat to the conversation unless I know the person well. Same here dude - how's that book coming along?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyst View Post
    I usually take the back seat to the conversation unless I know the person well. Same here dude - how's that book coming along?
    Doh. I'm slacking.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    I'm INFJ and my main thing is I can feel people and I'm a strong writer.

    Thats how we do it.

    The Mind is in essence our soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertsquirt View Post
    I'm INFJ and my main thing is I can feel people and I'm a strong writer.

    Thats how we do it.
    You manipulate people with writing?
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    I'm really awesome at manipulation. I make people think they're doing what they want for their own benefit without them stopping to doubt me once. but that's also because it usually is... in the long run. however, it's also beneficial because it serves as a means to end some other problem, so I'm making them do what's eventually good for them for my own reasons,too. how could they possibly condemn me? oh, I'm never forceful. I'm just right. like an iNtj, in a sense. usually they realize that. also, check out this article: http://personalitycafe.com/infj-arti...aces-infj.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silently Honest View Post
    I wish I were more manipulative, I'd get what I want more often.
    Teach me too... I want to learn :P (I think I'm too darned earnest to be manipulative). More social capital, please!

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    Someone here defined manipulation as influence with force. That sounds spot on. I'm very good at it, but I cannot do it without consent. Even if I think it would be good for someone else. I've been in plenty of situations where I knew exactly what to say to get what I wanted, and to get someone else to mentally come to a space where they would also want it, but it feels too much like wielding a weapon, bringing a gun to a knife fight, and that is not fair. I cannot bring myself to do it and accepted sacrificing even potential relationships rather than going there. There is a barrier there for me that I can't get past.

    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    You manipulate people with writing?
    This is very much a possibility. The pen is mightier than the sword, and a poet knows how to get inside your head. Consider the Bible. Or "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal." Words can subvert and alter, and have changed the world, if not actually, then possibly in the minds of people.

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