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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyst View Post
    I think everyone would agree that both types are manipulative.
    So are all of these:

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    I think INFJs are more manipulative because they do it almost unconsciously (at least I do). ENTPs seem to scheme about how to manipulate and it doesn't come as naturally to them as it does to INFJs because ENTPs actually have to make an effort to do the manipulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    I think INFJs are more manipulative because they do it almost unconsciously (at least I do). ENTPs seem to scheme about how to manipulate and it doesn't come as naturally to them as it does to INFJs because ENTPs actually have to make an effort to do the manipulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    So are all of these:

    ISTJ
    ISFJ
    INTJ
    ISTP
    ISFP
    INFP
    INTP
    ESTP
    ESFP
    ENFP
    ESTJ
    ESFJ
    ENFJ
    ENTJ
    I didn't mean to imply that INFJs and ENTPs were the only types than can be manipulative.

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    Probably pretty similar, but INFJs are much better at not getting caught, I think.

    ENTPs will often let you know they're trying to manipulate you but make it funny or amusing enough that you don't really mind that much. It's a patented skill that we're pretty proud of.
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    I think INFJ's would be better simply because they would have more bulletproof justification for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    I think INFJ's would be better simply because they would have more bulletproof justification for themselves.

    Perhaps INFJs would have thought of the justification, stemming from their values sytem..The ENTP might not bother with the justification unless that contingency was envisioned deemed ostensible to success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Wanna wrestle about it, showoff ?

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