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    Wow! This thread sucks on so many levels!
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    I liked By My Sword's honestly even if it was a bit surprising. On the other hand, I can see how others could get offended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDK123 View Post
    I liked By My Sword's honestly even if it was a bit surprising. On the other hand, I can see how others could get offended.
    I also appreciate his unadulterated honesty. He could have presented it a little better. But, I think we need a few more edgy INFJ's on this board. We're not all saints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kestrel View Post
    I also appreciate his unadulterated honesty. He could have presented it a little better. But, I think we need a few more edgy INFJ's on this board. We're not all saints.
    We're supposed to be saints? haha, wtf? I know I'm not!

    Oh btw, you have an awesome quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDK123 View Post
    We're supposed to be saints? haha, wtf? I know I'm not!

    Oh btw, you have an awesome quote.
    Coming off as a saint (presenting well) is just another way to gain power over those around you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan View Post
    Coming off as a saint (presenting well) is just another way to gain power over those around you.
    Now that I think about it it does come to my advantage. Plus being 5', physically handicapped, and being deemed "pretty" by some probably also helps with coming off saintly.

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    The image your peers have of you is basic to being able to have large effects on them.

    The more they trust you/like you, the more vulnerable they'll be to your manipulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan View Post
    The image your peers have of you is basic to being able to have large effects on them.

    The more they trust you/like you, the more vulnerable they'll be to your manipulation.
    Interesting way to look at it. I rarely use that tool other than maybe with authority figures. However, wouldn't it be shady/mean to use it on everyone??? I would not like to get played, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDK123 View Post
    Interesting way to look at it. I have never utilized that tool efficiently other than maybe with authority figures. However, wouldn't it be shady/mean to use it on everyone??? I would not like to get played, haha.
    I definitely use it on everyone.

    I put in a lot of effort towards building trust/respect, because I know it gives me more control. I don't necessarily have to use the control, but if something comes up, I'll be in a better position.

    Plus, I'm in a better position to help them, too. They'll actually listen to me if I say something that usually makes them defensive.

    And then helping them just makes them trust me more, giving me more power.

    Everything is about power. Whether it's conscious or unconscious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan View Post
    I definitely use it on everyone.

    I put in a lot of effort towards building trust/respect, because I know it gives me more control. I don't necessarily have to use the control, but if something comes up, I'll be in a better position.

    Plus, I'm in a better position to help them, too. They'll actually listen to me if I say something that usually makes them defensive.

    And then helping them just makes them trust me more, giving me more power.

    Everything is about power. Whether it's conscious or unconscious.
    oh ok, gotcha. I always stayed away from using that tool because I saw that tool as a negative but it sounds like it can be as much a benefit too.

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