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    "Hey. I'm just being HONEST!"

    A form of manipulation?
    "No ray of sunshine is ever lost, but the green which it awakes into existence needs time to sprout, and it is not always granted to the sower to see the harvest. All work that is worth anything is done in faith." - Albert Schweitzer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    "Hey. I'm just being HONEST!"

    A form of manipulation?
    no, when I say that I have no intentions of manipulation. They asked me what I thought, I'm going to tell them, if they're too sensitive to hear the truth, then don't ask me.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    "Hey. I'm just being HONEST!"

    A form of manipulation?
    I do this sometimes. Like, I am not manipulating you if I tell you I am trying to manipulate you? Because manipulation implies hidden motives. If my motives are open, what then is the problem? In that case I am only presenting you with a decision point. Tell me yes or tell me no.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    "Hey. I'm just being HONEST!"

    A form of manipulation?
    Can be.

    What synarch said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    no, when I say that I have no intentions of manipulation. They asked me what I thought, I'm going to tell them, if they're too sensitive to hear the truth, then don't ask me.
    Oopsie, prpl. I wasn't referring to you directly. I could have taken time to preface the statement and didn't think to.

    I was in thought of how people can sometimes say things in all honesty and it can be a truthful statement but the underlying intention is something different than how it appears.

    Or it can be used as a defense after exposing something about one's self that suddenly looks to the speaker like a mistake. Like an effort to turn a negative into a positive.

    I thought I saw that earlier in the thread.

    No harm meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    I do this sometimes. Like, I am not manipulating you if I tell you I am trying to manipulate you? Because manipulation implies hidden motives. If my motives are open, what then is the problem? In that case I am only presenting you with a decision point. Tell me yes or tell me no.
    "Yes or no."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    "Hey. I'm just being HONEST!"

    A form of manipulation?
    Perhaps this is the INFP idealist in me speaking, but I don't want to live a life where I have to worry about honesty as being a form of manipulation. If I have to question someone's motives for being honest with me, then there are likely deeper issues in the friendship.

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    There are always motives for being honest.

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    Eh! "manipulation" has such bad connotations. It's more like ... being the good witch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiltyred View Post
    Eh! "manipulation" has such bad connotations. It's more like ... being the good witch.
    Either everything is manipulative or nothing is.

    Unless you can figure out a better definition.

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