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[NF] What Are Your NF Values?

BlueScreen

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Well this is interesting. Largely you responses are the same, and they are comforting, there is much to be valued in your...values. And I--for the most part--share them.

Beauty? How is beauty a value? I'm going to assume you don't mean it in a shallow sense. But I would kinda like to know why it is a value of yours anyway.

I think beauty might be a global one, at least to NFPs. I love beauty in nature, in people, in art. And I am big on reality. Why pretend something that isn't beautiful is beautiful? Without contrast there is no concept. But also why focus on the part that isn't beautiful? Just search for the part that is. You can find beauty in almost everything if you look. It's not like you'll be left out :).
 

Nonsensical

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I always feel that hands down, at the bottom of my roots, my soul purpose is simply to find true love. And I mean it. Most people put their values at complex levels, and put life out to be a never ending maze of possibilities, not knowing where to go, or how to rationalize any of it, but I have a feeling that my purpose is to love, and that's it. Nothing more, nothing less..simply to find someone I love in this world, that can love me the same.

By far the best thing in this world, for me, is to love someone else, and I think about it a lot. I feel almost like I'm being closed in a cage, suffocated, when i can't get out and express this love, and I always strive for a cage-free environment, the freedom to love another human being. I can't explain it at all in typing, so i'll leave it at that, I think.
 

Eruca

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I think beauty might be a global one, at least to NFPs. I love beauty in nature, in people, in art. And I am big on reality. Why pretend something that isn't beautiful is beautiful? Without contrast there is no concept. But also why focus on the part that isn't beautiful? Just search for the part that is. You can find beauty in almost everything if you look. It's not like you'll be left out :).

Of course beauty is desirable, it's just strange describing it as a value.

No matter. I understand what you mean by beauty now, though I think some things I find beautifull would appear mundane to you.

Oh, and you may be assuming I am unattractve. I am not. :blush:

*Edit* Infact I think I may make a thread on what different people find beautifull.
 

Eruca

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Everyone is always selfish.

(Yes! I love this discussion!)

If I like I could pull some idyllic example of someone not being selfish but I'm pretty sure you will have some answer for it.

Perhaps I could point out instead that most of the people who have posted in this thread value selfless behaviour? They do so not for themselves--and do NOT tell me they do it for the warm fuzzy feeling--they do it because they feel it is the right thing to do. Indeed, many of the traits given obviously do not go hand-in-hand with selfishness.
 

redacted

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If I like I could pull some idyllic example of someone not being selfish but I'm pretty sure you will have some answer for it.

I definitely would have some answer for it.

Perhaps I could point out instead that most of the people who have posted in this thread value selfless behaviour?

So do I, in the unofficial hand-wavey sense of the word.

They do so not for themselves--and do NOT tell me they do it for the warm fuzzy feeling--they do it because they feel it is the right thing to do.

Same thing.

Indeed, many of the traits given obviously do not go hand-in-hand with selfishness.

I disagree.

What else can I say?

In the stereotypical way, I'm pretty much the least selfish person I know. I always drop my activities if people call me crying, etc. And I'm that dude that everyone always calls with their issues.

My life goal is to be a therapist.
 

Eruca

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My life goal is to be a therapist.


If you only care about yourself why is it you have chosen a career that helps others?

Are you suggesting that you are only after the warm fuzzy feeling, as you believe any empathy on your part would be selfish?
 

redacted

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If you only care about yourself why is it you have chosen a career that helps others?

Are you suggesting that you are only after the warm fuzzy feeling, as you believe any empathy on your part would be selfish?

Yup.

I'm incredibly empathetic. I love people. They are the basis of my life.

Doesn't mean it's not selfish :)
 

Eruca

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Yup.

I'm incredibly empathetic. I love people. They are the basis of my life.

Doesn't mean it's not selfish :)

I see your argument now. I understood it already, but I dismissed it some time ago. Unfortunatly my reasons for this are complex, it is time to go to beds, and I am now aware that we are hijacking the thread. If you are interested, PM me and we can make a new one discussing the topic.
 
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Some of mine:

Faith
integrity
fidelity
Pietas
duty
loyalty
mysticism
chivalry
patriotism
community
family
honour
 

kiddykat

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- Respect for others

- Equality - "Golden Rule"- Treat others the way we want to be treated.

- Creativity

- Authenticity

- Diversity

- Purity (innocence, kind-heartedness, pure intentions)

- Fun, laughter, light-heartedness

- Knowledge, wisdom, integrity

- Open-mindedness, generosity
 

Numbers

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Of course beauty is desirable, it's just strange describing it as a value.

Yeah, I guess I meant the appreciation of it. In art and life in general. If that doesn't fit your idea of a value, fine, I retract it. I mean...not a big deal.:cool:
 

mlittrell

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openmindedness, being selfless, giving to others and expecting nothing in return, respect to others space/values/them as a person in general, honesty, idk theres a million things i could put here
 

alcea rosea

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Empathy
Open-mindedness
Authenticity
Fairness
Loyalty
Respect
 

niffer

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honour
mercifulness
effort
self-respect
openmindedness
consideration (of others)
common sense/world knowledge
willingness to grow
appreciativeness
humility
 
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