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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    I don't believe in luck.
    I do. I prefer to call it serendipity though... it's not something good happening just because you believed hard enough or crap like that, it's something happening that seemed unlikely but which was, in reality, inevitable, given the various threads of circumstances that led inexorably to intersect where they did.

    I think that if you think hard work or talent alone can get you somewhere, and refuse to take account of 'luck', you're mistaken... luck is, to me, elements and variables that are beyond the individual's control or ability to predict but which, nonetheless, inevitably have a profound effect on that individual's life. And that really does happen. That's why flexibility is essential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post
    I do. I prefer to call it serendipity though... it's not something good happening just because you believed hard enough or crap like that, it's something happening that seemed unlikely but which was, in reality, inevitable, given the various threads of circumstances that led inexorably to intersect where they did.

    I think that if you think hard work or talent alone can get you somewhere, and refuse to take account of 'luck', you're mistaken... luck is, to me, elements and variables that are beyond the individual's control or ability to predict but which, nonetheless, inevitably have a profound effect on that individual's life. And that really does happen. That's why flexibility is essential.
    Serendipity is in some sense "controllable". We wouldn't notice the importance of an accident unless we're observant. The occurrence of these events is based on probability. The more we try the more likely they'll occur. That's my take on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    I don't believe in luck.
    I kind of agree. It's true, assuming there are enough repeat instances in which all existing odds are 'rolled'.

    It's "lucky" for someone off the street to marry a millionaire. It's not lucky if that same person targets millionaires until they marry one. It's all in the framing of odds that makes one 'lucky'.

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    It has to be luck. You can be great at everything, but fail as a whole.

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    I believe hardwork.. If you have talent and luck, and no motivation to put your awesome abilities to use, what good are they?

    The reverse could be said.. having no luck and talent, you may work hard but get no where.. but I believe without working hard you'll definitely get no where.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed111 View Post
    I find that for 99% of jobs talent is of little use.
    Actually I mostly agree with this. I believe that talent contributes more toward competence than hard work does. However most jobs don't require much competence. They only require hard work. (Some jobs don't require either.)
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    Anyone planning on reading this book?

    Outliers (book - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

    Gladwell's synopsys on The Colbert Report seems to indicate a high degree of luck is involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    Anyone planning on reading this book?

    Outliers (book - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

    Gladwell's synopsys on The Colbert Report seems to indicate a high degree of luck is involved.
    Oh a new one out by Gladwell? Interesting... I might... eventually. I liked Blink and Tipping Point.

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    trying to revive the old thread again!

    well,..what do u guys think about this one??
    let's hear your opinions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    I've noticed several J's say they don't believe in luck. I suppose that makes sense since P's are more likely to take advantage of unexpected opportunities. J's might view anything outside the plan as a temporary setback, while P's might actually see it as a stroke of good luck.
    interesting observation...

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