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    Question ENFJs ?

    I'm curious...
    My 14 year old son is an ENFJ.
    His best subjects in school are math and science,
    yet he's an avid reader and very verbal.
    I'm puzzled because he's not doing well in his (English) Language Arts class.

    Have any of you had that experience?

    And also, what careers have worked out well for such an ENFJ?

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    all the ENFJs share that, relatively, in common with your son..and I really find that ENFJs make very very great, caring, teachers, and as a matter of fact, two of my favorite teachers at school are ENFJs.
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    Thank you.

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    I have some ENFJ friends in University and they are quite versatile. One started in Genetics, but she didn't care for the genetics labs so switched to biomedical engineering. Another started out in crop science, but decided to switch to nutrition. I haven't talke to her since if she liked the program or not. I met one in a human ecology/textiles course. She was in the elementary education human ecology combined program. My male ENFJ best friend is in the trades, I think he's doing carpentry. My ENFJ aunt is a higher ranked Nurse who plans to pursue teaching Nursing in the future.

    Because they're hard workers, they can do pretty much anything they set their minds too. A common trend seemed to be enjoyment of the softer sciences and a need to interact with people.

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    My really close ENFJ friend is an accounting major. I think this was simply because her dad has a high position in Exxon and she wishes to follow in his footsteps. What is notable is that she is the president of SAB (Student Activities Board) at my University, and she is amazing at the job. It comes so naturally to her. She basically plans all the major events on campus. Everyone says she is the best SAB president we have ever had (especially when comparing her to the INTJ one we had last year).

    We had our Halloween dance last week and she just stood in the very back by the food instead of dancing and having fun (like she normally does). I asked her if everything was ok, and she looked at me, smiled, and said: "Yeah. Everything is perfect. For some reason I'm having just as much fun watching everyone enjoy themselves at what I put together for them..." It was very heartwarming; and she did put an insane amount of time (two months) into every aspect of the dance.

    What I'm getting at is that I think what ultimately makes her happy is leading and providing for large groups of people. She is naturally able to lead people in meetings and keep them engaged. Her dominant Fe shines brightly. I thought I would mention all of this in case you see these kind of abilities in you son.

    And about not doing so well in English: It is possible that his class could be very boring to him. English is my favorite subject, but I often don't do as well in my English classes because the teacher picks a dull book to "explore" (e.g. Heart of Darkness), or something like that. It's insanely hard for me to put a lot of effort into something I don't find important or something I find boring. You should discuss this possibility with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    I'm puzzled because he's not doing well in his (English) Language Arts class.
    Betchya his teacher is a traditionalist "good writing means less errors" kinda person without much ability to read subtext and symbols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    I'm curious...
    My 14 year old son is an ENFJ.
    His best subjects in school are math and science,
    yet he's an avid reader and very verbal.
    I'm puzzled because he's not doing well in his (English) Language Arts class.

    Have any of you had that experience?
    Yes. I hated school from grades 5 on. I repeated 10th grade. I still graduated with the class I started with, but only barely, and only because people who had sway over such things cared enough to put me in classes they knew I would have to try to fail at. Meaning they cared more than I did.

    I'm an honors student at college.

    And yes, the maths and sciences are my forte and I'm also an avid reader and very verbal.

    I simply do not like being told what to do and when to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    Yes. I hated school from grades 5 on. I repeated 10th grade. I still graduated with the class I started with, but only barely, and only because people who had sway over such things cared enough to put me in classes they knew I would have to try to fail at. Meaning they cared more than I did.

    I'm an honors student at college.

    And yes, the maths and sciences are my forte and I'm also an avid reader and very verbal.

    I simply do not like being told what to do and when to do it.
    LOL Brendan, thanks for your input. I appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    LOL Brendan, thanks for your input. I appreciate it.
    Lol. Anytime. ENFJ kids, if I'm typical of them, are very giving and flexible, but sometimes we just come to something we simply refuse to budge on. We have fiery personalities and are very, very stubborn. Though I'm sure he got part of that from you, being an INTJ and all, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    Betchya his teacher is a traditionalist "good writing means less errors" kinda person without much ability to read subtext and symbols.
    You could be right. I don't know. I haven't met her yet.
    One of the notes on his paper was "I don't like your style."
    Not sure what grade he got on that paper.
    She doesn't let the kids keep their papers.
    Hopefully, I'll see them tomorrow.
    She came across very TJ in her emails to me.
    I'm not surprised my son is having a hard time with her.

    After addressing her as Dear Mrs. so-and-so, asking her for a meeting, letting her know my son couldn't come because of a previous commitment with a different teacher, and signing it Sincerely, my name, the first thing I received from her was this:
    "Any meeting would be unproductive without [your son's] presence. I shall speak to Mrs. so-and-so about excusing him for a brief period." And then she suggested a couple of time slots to choose from.

    So yeah. Not surprised my son is having a hard time with a woman like that.

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